In the last half year to a year, all my quickplay servers died to almost 0 players on it. I assume its also because of the fast majority of servers being put in to make money. All my NON quickplay servers are pretty full and even more then it used to be. Now there might be a shift. I dont think i will loose players if they add more non quickplay servers since thats a pool of people that dont use quickplay in the first place.
2013/11/7 Todd Pettit <pettit.t...@gmail.com> > Agreed. but if the vast majority of players connect through quickplay and > it cuts deeply in to server Ad revenue, which seems likely, then admins > will be looking elsewhere and those are the logical places to go. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DontWannaName!" <ad...@topnotchclan.com> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < > hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > Cc: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < > hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 8:02:21 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support > > A server can be listed in the browser and still be in quickplay... > > Sent from my iPhone 5 > > > On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Todd Pettit <pettit.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I am just saying there will be more because servers who were relying > only on ads to fund their servers or generate revenue will surely move into > those types of servers. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Aaron Thompson" <rmesc...@gmail.com> > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < > hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 7:51:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support > > > > There would be regardless if what valve does. > > > > Sincerely, > > Aaron > >> On Nov 6, 2013 6:50 PM, "Todd Pettit" <pettit.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Yes and now there will be hundreds more jailbreak, freak fortress and > >> trade servers for you to compete with. > >> > >> Good show indeed. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Aaron Thompson" <rmesc...@gmail.com> > >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < > >> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 7:40:53 PM > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support > >> > >> I wasn't so sure about this, and honestly doesn't affect me because I > run > >> trade servers and jailbreak, but it seems fine. If you join the server, > you > >> don't have to download any HTML junk and don't have to watch any > ads...but > >> if you like the server, save to favorites and reconnect you see whatever > >> the HTML page is, depending on whether or not the client has HTML > enabled. > >> Guys, this is a victory for matchmaking clients who just want to play > and > >> not get spammed by the servers they join. I like it. Valve, please roll > it > >> out in a way that doesn't break the game and people like me are cool > with > >> the change #1. Good show! > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Aaron > >>> On Nov 6, 2013 6:30 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> From what I heard ads needed to be watched for X seconds before being > >> paid. > >>> Any communities that were reliant on ads being served to quickplay > users > >>> would have already shut down by now. > >>> > >>> This new limitation just seems to serve as an annoyance to perfectly > >>> legitimate server owners rather than to kill off all ad supported > >> servers. > >>> > >>> I hope there will be more people who share my views rather than > thinking: > >>> oh good Valve is going to shut down more of our competition. > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, N-Gon <ngongamedes...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Oddly enough, a handful of communities have been shut down because of > >> the > >>>> recent changes. This one will affect a few more. > >>>> Can't say I'm saddened by this since those communities were cancer to > >>> TF2. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com > >>>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Can you tell us the reason for this change? Is there no other > >> solution > >>>>> rather than removing functionality from the game? > >>>>> > >>>>> The complaint before was forced ads. Servers cannot resend the MOTD > >> to > >>>>> quickplay players anymore so I don't understand why additional > >>>> restrictions > >>>>> need to be introduced. > >>>>> > >>>>> HTML motds are superior to text motds even only shown at connection. > >>> They > >>>>> look better and they allow you to update the page without rebooting > >> the > >>>>> server. Especially when it comes to TF2 players, no one is going to > >> pay > >>>>> attention to an unformatted wall of text that could contain important > >>>> rules > >>>>> or links to your website. With these new restrictions both the > >> webpage > >>>> and > >>>>> the text file needs to be maintained. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Fletcher Dunn > >>>>> <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> It's something enforced by the client, and is a function of how > >> they > >>>>>> connected to that particular server, not any particular server > >>>> settings. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If they connect via the server browser (or command line, etc) then > >>> they > >>>>>> will show HTML. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: > >>>>>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Todd > >> Pettit > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:41 PM > >>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD > >>> support > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Would those who connected outside of matchmaking be able to use > >> html > >>> on > >>>>>> quickplay enabled servers or does enabling quickplay disable html > >>>>>> completely? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "Valentin G." <nextra...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < > >>>>>> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 6:29:32 PM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD > >>> support > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm not concerned about change 1 but change 2 in that regard ;) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:26 AM, DontWannaName! < > >>>> ad...@topnotchclan.com > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Couldn't you just leave the txt file empty? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:22 PM, "Valentin G." <nextra...@gmail.com > >>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> about:blank is no longer valid? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Fletcher Dunn > >>>>>>>> <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That's correct; #2 is a Source engine change. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: > >>>>>>>>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle > >>>>>>>>> Sanderson > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 3:09 PM > >>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD > >>>>>>>>> support > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Does the latter impact all Source 2k7 games? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>> Kyle. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Fletcher Dunn > >>>>>>>>> <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We're making two changes to TF HTML MOTD support that server > >>>>>>>>>> operators should be aware of: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 1.) HTML MOTD's will no longer be shown by clients that > >>>> connect > >>>>>> via > >>>>>>>>>> quickplay. Those clients will show the plaintext message > >>>> instead. > >>>>>>>>>> (The file identified by the convar motdfile_text, which > >>> defaults > >>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> motd_text.txt.) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2.) When sending a URL to the "info" panel by name, the > >> URL > >>>> must > >>>>>>> begin > >>>>>>>>>> with 'http://' or 'https://'. Note that this change does > >> not > >>>>>>>>>> affect putting a URL in motd.txt directly, which has always > >>>>>>>>>> required a protocol prefix in order for the file contents to > >> be > >>>>>>>>>> interpreted as a > >>>>>>>>> URL. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>> archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> please visit: > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
