There are several problems with this. With all the new strict guidelines that looks like a laundry list of complaints from SPUF, people are eventually going to whine about the server expanding beyond 24 slots. Then if a server is completely full then are admins blocked from managing their servers just to be on quickplay? Not every situation can be handled by using the console. And then there is the pay-by-slot issue.
I am thankful that there is an attempt at a compromise but frankly it is quite underwhelming. If the default "official servers" box isn't going to be removed, community servers will still be cut off from the majority of new players, whether they qualify or not. The new guidelines for quickplay also make it impossible for server owners to support or stand out. - "Opening a MOTD window (hidden or visible) that is not requested" I don't see what the point of this is when the MOTD has been disabled for quickplay players. Does this mean we can't even show the MOTD to non-quickplay players when they connect? - "Giving or selling gameplay advantage to players" We don't give people bonus HP and damage, but what about things like autobalance immunity, the ability to swap teams, or even humiliation immunity? Seriously, I had someone argue those were gameplay advantages. - "Granting or modifying economy items, or taking actions that devalue players' items, or interfering with the TF2 economy" This means that donator or frequent player effects are out even though it doesn't change the gameplay? All I see here is that Valve is making it impossible for quickplay servers to support and distinguish themselves, getting rid of the most commonly accepted server benefits that have been offered since CS. And the official server opt-in that is the source of all the recent player loss is still unchanged. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Fletcher Dunn <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote: > What's the problem with overfull servers? Can you not set > visiblemaxplayers to 24 and allow players with reserved slots to join past > 24? > > -----Original Message----- > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jake Forrester > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 4:23 PM > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important changes to TF2 coming soon > > Oh happy day! > > Thank you for taking all our concerns to heart and actually fixing quite a > few of the problems that have been around for years. I'm actually giddy > with the changes. > > The only thing I can see being an issue now is this: > > > > * Kicking players to make room for reserved slots > > > I agree that it's lame to kick players for reserved slots, but there > isn't a great method to support reserved slots right now. A long time > ago we used to allow reserved slot players to connect when the server was > full without kicking anyone (ex: 25/24 players), but srcds seemed to have > issues with greater than 24 players. Are there any plans to support > over-full servers like this? I think the donor-based communities are > probably the ones with the most contributions to the TF2 community as a > whole, and they're the ones that tend to give out reserved slots as > incentive to donate. Some legitimate way to allow reserved slots without > hurting quickplay eligibility would be /very/ nice. > > All in all, amazing update Fletcher. I'm glad to see the QP issues being > addressed, and the gameserver accounts becoming a reality. > > -- > > Jake Forrester > Owner / Web Developer > FirePowered LLC > w: https://firepoweredgaming.com > e: j...@ranndesigns.com > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
