That and the fact that most of the time they seem to not respond to bugs or topics such as Quickplay.
On 27 August 2014 20:39, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote: > Before the quickplay change, there was not a single official server in the > top 200 on gametracker. If official servers were truly the best, they would > have been up there in equal numbers. > > Some community server worse than official ones. But there are a large > number of community servers that were clearly superior. You can argue all > you want about "everyone" preferring a vanilla experience without > moderators or plugins that fix the many problems with TF2, but the > dominance of community servers prior to this change refutes that. > > I've shown time and time again that many of the people here arguing against > community servers here are failed owners who haven't played TF2 in 2 years > and want to see the rest of us fail, or serial spammers who have been > banned from every popular community who wants to ensure they can keep their > spam-haven populated. > > If anyone is still thinking about running servers, this should be a wakeup > call to stay far away from Valve games. Maybe they will realize the truth > to what we've been saying when player counts aren't being propped up by > summer vacation and updates. > > > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:15 AM, pwn <i...@pwn.sk> wrote: > > > Dňa 27. 8. 2014 19:00 Jake Forrester wrote / napísal(a): > > > > If we want to inspire change, we need to have a compelling argument that > >> the majority of us can get behind--not just "psht, you ruined my > servers, > >> revert the changes or I'll shout at you." You said it though "Default > >> Quickplay Settings" - Valve needs to take the > >> > > > > There is not a simple month that "issue" goes unnoticed on the > > mailinglist... > > I myself was/(still am?) against the quickplay changes, but (from another > > point of view) they are simply the most wanted servers because of how > > "clean" they are ... As much as I don't like how those changes were > > enforced on us serverowners, I am still on Valve's side with this, thanks > > to those greedy assholes that runs servers simply for profit (as > mentioned > > previously by someone else).. > > > > On the other hand, at least half of the serverowners that are always > > complaining about the changes, are trying to run the same scheme that > > hundreds of other communities do - if most of other communities didn't > > succeed, why do you think you will do? Running 10 servers, that are most > > almost always empty - wouldn't it be better to lower the amount of them > and > > reduce your outcome that you can't cover with the donations/from your > > pocket? > > > > I personally visited most of the servers of the owners here that > > complained (if it was possible to find out which ones they are running) > and > > in most cases there was nothing new that the server could offer over the > > valve ones > > We can rant about valve's servers not being the perfect (no moderation, > on > > overloaded boxes, etc..), but, at least in my eyes, they are still a > > guarantee that what we get are simply vanilla, with no childish admins, > > tons of useless bronny or whatever else plugins... > > Or get different, learn a bit of programming to get something special > that > > others don't have, start with 1 or 2 servers instead with dozens of them > > (and increase the amount *if* needed) and people that do use the > > serverbrowser will find you (yeah, there are, i get almost no traffic > from > > quickplay, yet have my server is still full) > > > > --- > > Táto správa neobsahuje vírusy ani žiadny škodlivý kód - avast! Antivirus > > je aktívny. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
