Just to clarify..
I never intended to sound like someone who promotes valve's quickplay decision as a perfect, nor the servers superior to community ones (well, at least a bunch of them), but looking on it as players that prefer vanilla experience then yeah, valve's ones are the most comfortable to hop in. (STAR_'s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaxEvEwJt7g video may be a hyped up a little bit, but still got some basic sane points)

On the other hand, eric's answer (iirc) to look into quickplay and shift the traffic slowly back to community servers in the next months after gathering enough feedback and then never giving us any further answer to it, giving a middle-finger to all modded servers that provide different game experience (dodgeball, etc etc) by the strict quickplay rules, ignoring our request to notify with some kind of pop-up of the possibility to change to community servers after xy hourplay is a different topic and feels like a big f**k you from valve, but whining about it every week on the mailing list where we practically just repeat ourselves, is not fun anymore; especially when the whining came from serverowners who were the reason those strict changes were made (at least in the mails shortly after the change).


Dňa 27. 8. 2014 21:47 Paul wrote / napísal(a):
That and the fact that most of the time they seem to not respond to bugs or
topics such as Quickplay.


On 27 August 2014 20:39, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote:

Before the quickplay change, there was not a single official server in the
top 200 on gametracker. If official servers were truly the best, they would
have been up there in equal numbers.

Some community server worse than official ones. But there are a large
number of community servers that were clearly superior. You can argue all
you want about "everyone" preferring a vanilla experience without
moderators or plugins that fix the many problems with TF2, but the
dominance of community servers prior to this change refutes that.

I've shown time and time again that many of the people here arguing against
community servers here are failed owners who haven't played TF2 in 2 years
and want to see the rest of us fail, or serial spammers who have been
banned from every popular community who wants to ensure they can keep their
spam-haven populated.

If anyone is still thinking about running servers, this should be a wakeup
call to stay far away from Valve games. Maybe they will realize the truth
to what we've been saying when player counts aren't being propped up by
summer vacation and updates.



On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:15 AM, pwn <i...@pwn.sk> wrote:

Dňa 27. 8. 2014 19:00 Jake Forrester wrote / napísal(a):

  If we want to inspire change, we need to have a compelling argument that
the majority of us can get behind--not just "psht, you ruined my
servers,
revert the changes or I'll shout at you." You said it though "Default
Quickplay Settings" - Valve needs to take the

There is not a simple month that "issue" goes unnoticed on the
mailinglist...
I myself was/(still am?) against the quickplay changes, but (from another
point of view) they are simply the most wanted servers because of how
"clean" they are ... As much as I don't like how those changes were
enforced on us serverowners, I am still on Valve's side with this, thanks
to those greedy assholes that runs servers simply for profit (as
mentioned
previously by someone else)..

On the other hand, at least half of the serverowners that are always
complaining about the changes, are trying to run the same scheme that
hundreds of other communities do - if most of other communities didn't
succeed, why do you think you will do? Running 10 servers, that are most
almost always empty - wouldn't it be better to lower the amount of them
and
reduce your outcome that you can't cover with the donations/from your
pocket?

I personally visited most of the servers of the owners here that
complained (if it was possible to find out which ones they are running)
and
in most cases there was nothing new that the server could offer over the
valve ones
We can rant about valve's servers not being the perfect (no moderation,
on
overloaded boxes, etc..), but, at least in my eyes, they are still a
guarantee that what we get are simply vanilla, with no childish admins,
tons of useless bronny or whatever else plugins...
Or get different, learn a bit of programming to get something special
that
others don't have, start with 1 or 2 servers instead with dozens of them
(and increase the amount *if* needed) and people that do use the
serverbrowser will find you (yeah, there are, i get almost no traffic
from
quickplay, yet have my server is still full)

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