Hotmail and Yahoo both use standard HTTP port 80.  Are you running a
HTTP proxy, filter, or blocking?

Hotmail.com - There are multiple IP's that they can be hitting for
access.  Some are 64.4.44.7, 64.4.45.7, 64.4.52.7, 64.4.53.7, 64.4.54.7,
and 64.4.43.7. This can and will change.

Yahoo! Mail - There are multiple IP's that they can be hitting for
access.  Some are 216.115.106.35 and 216.115.106.34. This can and will
change.

What about logging all allowed outbound traffic to see when it is
successful where it is going and what port it is using.

Food for thought.  Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Planck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [isp-security] sonicwall/hotmail


Hi all,
I've been working with a client for a bit on a perplexing problem. They
have
a small Sonicwall firewall which seems to work fine, except for one
thing -
it sometimes blocks hotmail and yahoo mail access. 

Here are the symptoms: you can login to the hotmail website most of the
time, but not all the time. These times can be from one login to the
next,
just minutes apart. Sometimes it will go to an error page in the web
browser
saying the site is unavaliable. Also, once logged in, you can usually
send
and receive mail, but not all the time. Sometimes you will not be able
to
send mail - after clicking on send, nothing happens. Similar symptoms
from
yahoo mail. 

Here's what I've already tried:
Thinking that what you pay for it what you get (nothing), I started with
blaming hotmail, but since the hotmail access was fine at almost same
time
and with the same account and the same computer over a dial-up
connection as
it wasn't working from behind the firewall. Also, I removed the firewall
at
one point for a different reason and hotmail worked flawlessly during
this
period of time. I tried getting in touch with hotmail tech support, hah,
no
luck there, but I did stumble across the fact that you can use Outlook
Express or Outlook 2002/XP to access your hotmail account. Add a new
account
and select HTTP and put in your hotmail account number and it goes. With
this in place behind the firewall there is never a problem with hotmail
access. I also called Sonicwall tech support and the techie there said
that
there are no known issues with hotmail, just to try setting the security
to
medium in IE. It already was. 

Has anyone run across this or know what may be going on? I'm not
entirely
convinced that it's the firewall blocking it, but I can come up with no
other logical conclusion.

Thanks in advance,
Mitch Planck, CNE, CCNA

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