Patrick Spingys wrote:
> Hello Godmar Back,
> sorry, that I answered so late, but I have had no time in the
> last time. (Its over a month, where you have this mail).
> Sorry, that I answerd so late.
>
> Godmar Back wrote:
> >
> > Hi Patrick,
> >
> > >
> > > On my Linux-System I have no gmake and automake I can't
> >
> > Linux comes with GNU make by default.
> > Type "make -v" to see it. (You know, "GNU/Linux"?)
> >
>
> Aha. But there stand "gmake" in the file INSTALL. And if
> I want to start it, I must input "make" ...?
linux is the only platform that (to my knowledge) installs GNU make as
"make". most platforms come with their own make.
> > > install, so as I have tried to install your Japhar with
> > > '.configure' first and then 'make' (NOT gmake), there comes
> > > Errors and the compilation was stoppt.
> >
> > In Kaffe, it is for this reason that we provide all automake-generated
> > file in the CVS repository and in the snapshot.
> >
> > However, you can get automake: either look in the ftp directory of
> > your Linux distribution, or download it from
> > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/automake/
>
> Yes, automake, autoconf anf libtools I have succesful installed.
> But with SuSE-Linux 6.0 and 6.1 there comes errors.
>
> >
> > >
> > > And then I have not a Question:
> > > Why is Japhar licensed under the LGPL and not under the GPL ?
> > > Is it possible, that it is licensed in any time under the
> > > GPL ?
> > >
> > >
> > > But I liked Japhar already now more then Kaffe, because Kaffe is
> > > only for Linux free. I think that Japhar is or becomes the
> > > best Java-clone. :-)
> > >
> >
> > Japhar may be the best Java clone, but be aware that Kaffe
> > is already GPLed for *all* platforms. It is hence as "free" as the GPL
> > allows it.
>
> Oh yes, I have seen it. But thats not so long, that it is GPLd.
> Isn't it ?
I was also under the impression that Kaffe was indeed not GPL'ed for all
platforms. I thought kaffe was going to take the route that cygnus took in
supporting embedded systems -- release the code to just the person that paid
you $$$ to port it to their platform (but then again, maybe I was misinformed
about cygnus too :)
> > It is not completely free like a BSD license would be, but
> > I think the past has shown that the GPL is a license that is accepted
> > by many open source projects. That's why Tim Wilkinson chose it.
> >
> > The GPL does not impose *any* restriction with regard to a specific
> > platform or operating system. For instance, you can run Kaffe on Linux,
> > FreeBSD, Solaris, and NetBSD/arm, to name a few architectures.
> > For more information, see www.kaffe.org. The kaffe licensing FAQ is
> > at www.kaffe.org/FAQ.html
>
> But why exists no with "--static" compiled versions of japhar
> for the supported Platforms FreeBSD, NetBSD, Linux, Solaris and
> Win32 ?
Japhar isn't anywhere near the point where we want people that don't have a
clue downloading it and trying it out. It's primarily a hacker release at
the moment. At some point in the future, when it becomes stable enough,
we'll start packaging up binary releases.
> And why is there not the to Win32 ported Source-code
> on the Japhar-Homepahe ?
Well, the Win32 port uses the same code as the unix ports. the only changes
were some project files used to build everything. Unfortunately my windows
machine died before I had checked them in. As soon as I install VC again,
I can regenerate them.
> If anyone have problems with compiling the sources (like me), so
> he can use it (the japahr), too.
>
> To the LGPL: As I have written the last mail, I thought , that
> the LGPL is much bader like the GPL, because I have red before
> the german version of
> http://www.gnu.org/brave-gnu-world/issue_1.html
> in the german newspaper "Linux-Magazin".
> There stand under "Renaming of the LGPL", that all authos
> "should prefer the GPL whenever possible".
*sigh* that page is rather unfortunate. It says the LGPL is "generally
disliked" but doesn't say by whom. Some people, myself included, like the
LGPL more than the GPL, just because I don't *care* what you do with the code
you write. I care about the code I write. I want it to remain free. You
can think (and do) whatever you want, so long as changes to my code remain
free.
Chris
