At 3/26/02 01:04 PM -0800, Matt Schalit wrote:
>Mike Noyes wrote:
>>>>If you're talking about including the sub menus in the pages 
>>>>themselves, I don't think we can do that with phpWebSite.
>
>   I didn't realize the layout was tied to a theme
>and to a php way of making menus.

Matt,
It's tied to the phpWebSite code. PhpWebSite is a Content Management System 
(CMS) written in php 4.x using pear database abstraction. It attempts to 
meet W3C XHTML and accessability standards. It supports multiple themes, 
languages (i18n), and modules (plug-ins).

A demo of phpWebSite that you can play with is here:
http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/demo/

A CVS demo of the new core is here:
http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/cvsdemo/

PhpWebSite version 0.8.2 is at rc1. It should be available shortly.

>   I come from the old school of webmasters where I started
>with cern httpd and ncsa mosaic and everything was left
>margin adjusted.  When w3 came out with tables and the
>ability to center in the early 90's, that's when I was
>doing a lot of web design for the Remote Access Astronomy
>Project.
>
>   We just put the right graphics up and layed out the
>design using tables and later using frames.  Building
>a site like openssl.org using basic html 2.0 or 3.0
>code would be fairly straightforward.  I didn't realize
>that the move to php puts a lot of constraints on things
>because I'm not familiar with it.

This was fine when sites were static, but most are dynamic now. Dynamic 
sites make use of databases etc. Writing one from scratch takes a 
considerable amount of knowledge and time.

>   So now I'll switch my track of requests.  Before I wanted
>a simple layout like openssl.org's.
>
>      Now I request all source code to be reachable from a
>      single menu item.  Once the left hand column menu
>      item for Source Code is clicked, everything we have
>      is listed as links in the right hand window.  There
>      doesn't have to be a specific link to every file,
>      but rather I'd suggest it all be listed and linked
>      towards.
>
>      I request all documentation to be reachable from a
>      documents menu item in the same way as my source code
>      request.  This business of digging all over place to
>      find where code and docs are hidden in each developer's
>      stuff is what makes people frustrated, I gather.

I'll take a look at this, but it may cause maintainability problems (e.g. a 
new page is created and links to it have to be changed on multiple pages.).

>      I'd rather that the left hand column doesn't expand
>      itself.  When it does so, people have to focus on two
>      things that changed, the left hand menus and the right
>      hand page.  This is a minor point now that you've told
>      me how things are done with php.

This is an easy change in our config.php. I can specify that the menu is 
always expanded. Would that suffice?

>I've never searched for php themes.  Do you have any
>pointers?

Yes. :-)
http://phpwsthemes.sourceforge.net/
http://www.postnuke.com/
http://phpnuke.com/

Note: any phpnuke or postnuke theme will require modification to work with 
phpWebSite.

http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/PHP/Scripts/Content_Management/

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Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/
http://leaf-project.org/


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