It's a religious debate at this point.  We had our reasons for doing it the way 
we did at the time.  YMMV.

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, 
Dennis L
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:52 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Dasd_diag_mod question

I prefer running SWAPGEN under CMS before starting Linux.  If my primary 
background were Linux, I might feel differently.  Adam's fix to pick up the 
disk size from the directory certainly makes things easier.

                                                 Dennis O'Brien

My computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me in kickboxing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of David 
Boyes
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:59
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Dasd_diag_mod question

> I guess my question would be why is a complex EXEC needed to do a
> normal system administration task?  

It's a multi-step process whether you do it at the hypervisor level or inside 
the Linux guest, so you're going to need some kind of scripting either way. 

The basic Unix philosophy is write tools that do one thing well, then use 
scripting to sequence the execution of the one-thing tools to accomplish bigger 
tasks. You could write a custom tool that did it all -- but you'd be 
duplicating a lot of work and you'd have to maintain it over time. Big PITA.

I happen to be of the school that it's easier and simpler for this kind of 
preparation work to be done at the hypervisor level, and let the guest OS 
concentrate on identifying stuff it can use and managing the process of devices 
coming and going in a rational way. In this case, also, having swap is kind of 
necessary to getting Linux to run decently, and it's hard to do Linux stuff 
without a running Linux system, so creating SWAPGEN was a way to do the deed 
before you had a running Linux system to do it with.

> A second question is why didn't
> Novell provide a straightforward method for doing this and document it
> in a manual (without using a complex 3rd party EXEC) ?

It sounds like the issue is more that it's a 3rd party tool than that it's done 
the way it's done. If either of the distributors wants to include SWAPGEN, 
we're open to discussing the idea. No one has asked. 

It would be nice if the documentation included the way to set up DIAG disk I/O, 
though. 

-- db

David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates

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