Linux-Advocacy Digest #241, Volume #28            Sat, 5 Aug 00 04:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (ZnU)
  Re: The Perestroika Deception. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why Lycos Selected Microsoft and Intel ("Slava Pestov")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 03:07:45 -0400

Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> >>         The only ideologically pure Communist country left is North Korea;
> >> the others have been afflicted by various degrees of creeping capitalism.
> >It's a charade.  I've been to Russia on 3 occassions, and there is
> >no capitalism happening there.  You can't have capitalism without
> >property rights, and the Duma absolutely refuses to enact such laws.
> 
>         ROTFL. There is plenty of capitalism in Russia; what direct
> evidence is there that it's fakery? I mean *direct* evidence.

Yeah.  Name ONE significant owner of a large Russian company
who is NOT a high ranking member of the Communist Party.

Name just ONE.

> 
> >Golytsin has been predictions ever since he defected in 1961.
> 
>         Where are his 1961 predictions?
> 
> >>         However, it's that year, and the Russian-Chinese combined
> >> Communist goverment still has not taken over. The Russian Communists are
> >> not a branch of government anymore but are only another political party,
> >> and while China is still officially Communist, it suffers from a severe
> >> case of creeping capitalism and it has been unable to take over Taiwan.
> >They are all part of the same international movement.
> 
>         George Orwell was *much* smarter than this. He recognized that
> Commies could fight each others fiercely, and history has borne this out.
> 

When have 2 communist countries EVER fought each other?


> >>         A plan 40 years in the making? They could have implemented it in
> >> the 1960's.
> >It's more effective if there's a LONG period of adversarial
> >relations.  It fools the observers into imagining the "change"
> >to be bigger than it actually is.
> 
>         And waste an incredible amount of time.

Lenin's strategy specifically described taking SEVERAL generations.


> 
> >>         So what? However, in Russia nowadays, several parties compete for
> >> votes, where before, there was only one.
> >It's theater on a grand stage, you moron.
> 
>         Is there any *direct* evidence of some command center that is
> orchestrating the seeming multiparty center? If there was, it would have
> come out long ago; consider how many other scandals get revealed sooner
> or later.

We're talking about true devotees...who have a LOT to loose if
they talk (like...not only their own lives, but having their
entire family slaughtered as well in ... an accident...)
...true devotees who have even more conviction than you.


> 
> >The whole "Democracy and Capitalism" in Russia is a big fucking
> >charade.  Name ONE member of the Russian government who does
> >not have current or prior membership in the Communist Party.
> 
>         How many would there have had to be? The only way one's career
> would have seriously advanced before the fall of the SU would be to be a
> Party member. And my sister said of Yugoslavia that people had joined the
> Party there to advance their careers, and I would not be surprised if the
> SU was no different.

you're avoid the issue.

If Russia is now supposedly a free country with true democracy,
would there not be at least ONE member without a communist party
background..

You know..like the equivalent of Barbara Boxer...someone with
no previous political career.


> 
> >>         However, the loss of the Eastern European empire does not fit in
> >> very well with such a strategy.
> >Golitsyn details exactly HOW this *IS* part of the strategy.
> 
>         Did he "predict" that in 1961 or 1991?

In the 1970's

> 
>         And that has to be the lamest strategy imaginable; Gorbachev was
> unable to keep Germany from being "lost".

Golitsyn specifically said in the 1970's that the first country
to be "let go" would be Germany...because that would have the
greatest psychological impact on the West.


> 
> >>         That strikes me as absurd beyond belief. Nobody has ever offered
> >> documented proof of this conspiracy -- not even Golitsyn, it would seem.
> >Predicting this whole charade 10 years before it happens, even
> >naming East Germany as the place where it would start to "unravel"
> >isn't proof?
> 
>         It was Poland that the first cracks in the empire appeared, not
> East Germany.
> 
> >>         However, that has failed, with NATO advancing eastward into East
> >> Germany, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Hungary.
> >Or is this Soviet infiltration of NATO.
> 
>         ROTFL. It's NATO that they are joining and not the Warsaw Pact,
> which is now defunct.
> 
> >Golitsyn predicted in 1989 that this was one of the long-term
> >goals of the Moscow government.
> 
>         However, if there was serious question about which side they are
> on, they would not have been allowed to join NATO.

You know what ALL con-men have in commmon?  The ability to
convince people that they are sincere, even though they are not.


Also, are you aware of the "Partnership for Peace" organization.

it's parallel to NATO, but completely undermines it.




> 
> >>         Gorbachev is not the best possible hero -- he's disliked at home
> >> and he let Eastern Europe run away.
> >He's disliked for other reasons.  He's disliked by the average
> >Sergei-on-the-street for being a shill for the Communist party.
> 
>         No, the average Iosip-in-the-street thinks that he was
> incompetent. He's much better regarded abroad, however; I think that this
> is because of which of Gorbachev's achievements they focus on: domestic
> or foreign.
> 
> >>         ROTFL. A book written in 1984 should have no trouble "predicting"
> >> Solidarity's early years.
> >Golitsyn defected in 1961.  He made his initial predictions of
> >the rise of such an organization back in the 1970's, backed up
> >with KGB memos that he smuggled out with him when he escaped.
> 
>         And where is this stuff archived?
> 
> >>         Solidarity had been a clear *challenge* to the Polish
> >> Government's authority.
> >Only if you believe that the actors on the stage are truly
> >engaged in a life or death struggle. ...
> 
>         Here is the total amount of evidence of such a conspiracy that
> has appeared in public:
> 
>         {}

I've already posted references on this.


> 
> >>         ANd making Russia seem like a weakling?
> >Replacing 1000 circa 1949-1960 T-55 tanks with 2,500 T-80 tanks,
> >launching 2 aircraft carriers, numerous landing craft designed for
> >amphibious invasions, and completely replacing their ICBM fleet
> >is hardly what one would call "weakness."
> 
>         However, they'd have to send their armies a long way...

Depends.  China now has total control of the Panama Canal.

> 
> >>         Which suggests some flaw in capitalism.
> >No, it suggests that no matter where one travels, traitors
> >like you can always be found, ready and EAGER to sell-out
> >the freedom of their countrymen for a few dollars.
> 
>         And also loons with weird conspiracy theories.

The US government believes in "conspiracy theories"

Go sit in a Federal Courtroom some time.

Every single case, you will here "Conspiracy to commit ... "
amongst the charges.

so, apparently, conspiracies are happening all the time.



> --
> Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 07:39:55 GMT

In article 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 16:05:36 GMT, Chris Wenham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck) writes:
> >
> >> Does anybody know why AOL is still using IE?  I just got an "exclusive
> >> offer" (for me and a half-million or so close friends I guess) for AOL
> >> 5.0, and one selling point in the brochure was "includes Internet
> >> Explorer 5.0".
> >
> > It's in exchange for placement on the Windows desktop.
> 
> Actually, it's because MS agreed to work with AOL to integrate IE deep
> into AOL's software (ie better integration), and Netscape refused to
> do same.  

[Lots of quoting from the FoF follows]

That's wrong. "Netscape had not yet developed a componentized version of 
Navigator. Netscape had assured AOL that it would do so, and AOL 
believed that Netscape was capable of eventually making good on its 
pledge, but the fact remained that Microsoft had already completed a 
componentized version of Internet Explorer."

It seems there were other reasons:

"For example, Microsoft entered a contract with AOL whereby Microsoft 
actually paid AOL a bounty for every subscriber that it converted to 
access software that included Internet Explorer instead of Navigator."

Isn't that sort of backwards? Paying people to use your software?

How about:

"In the early spring of 1996, therefore, Microsoft exchanged favorable 
placement on the Windows desktop, as well as other valuable 
consideration, for AOL's commitment to distribute and promote Internet 
Explorer to the near exclusion of Navigator."

or an e-mail, written by Gates himself:

"What we want from AOL is that for a period of time -- say 2 years -- 
the browser that they give out to their customers and the one they 
mention and put on their pages and the one they exploit is ours and not 
Netscape[']s. We need for them to make our browser available as the 
browser to existing and new customers. We have to be sure that we don't 
allow them to promote Netscape as well. We want all the hits that come 
off of AOL to register on servers as our browser so people can start 
seeing us as having measurable browser share."

> I'm sure the next version of AOL will use NS

-- 
This universe shipped by weight, not volume.  Some expansion may have
occurred during shipment.

ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Perestroika Deception.
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 03:44:18 -0400

Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> >>         However, by protecting other processes, the OS coddles the user
> >> by not hurting whatever other processes a user may have active.
> >And so, because ONE user's processes misbehave, ALL USERS should
> >suffer? ...
> 
>         It would provide much better reason to punish than otherwise.

Behold:

        Loren Petrich's brand of compassion

        One person misbehaves..PUNISH THE WHOLE COMMUNITY!!!!



> 
> >>         This from someone who think that it ought to be trusted with
> >> armed force.
> >The alternative is facing invasion by any number of nations that
> >recognize ZERO individual liberties. ...
> 
>         The alternative is the Ayn Rand Brigade. Which has yet to defeat
> all the statist armies of the world in battle.
> 
> >>         It also specifies a Navy, but no Air Force.
> >The Air Force draws it's lineage from the Army, and thus, legally
> >falls under the same Constitutional rules which govern the Army.
> 
>         Very ingenious.

And true.


> 
> >> >> >Let's take.....blue-blood Republican Jay Rockefeller, ...
> >Wrong.  I complained that they are a bunch of FREE-LOADERS...just like
> >the welfare-whores that they are so fond of.
> 
>         So inheriting something makes one a freeloader?
> 
>         [a lot of stuff about Sergei Golitsyn being in hiding...]
> 
>         Good Grief! Alexander Solzhenitsyn got to go back to Russia, and
> Mr. Golitsyn acts like he's afraid of his own shadow?
> 
> >       Lenin advised the Communists that they must be prepared to
> >       "resort to all sorts of stratagems, maneuvers, illegal
> >       methods, evasions and subterfuge" to achieve their objectives.
> 
>         That doesn't prove a thing.
> 
> >If you examine the backgrounds of prominent Russian figures, you will
> >find that they have long Communist Party/ KGB or Komsomol pedigrees.
> 
>         As my sister had pointed out, Yugoslav Communist Party members
> were mostly careerist opportunists, and the same is very likely true in
> most cases in the xSU. So it is not surprising that some of them have
> become very ardent capitalists.
> 
>         I'm not saying that they can be trusted to love democracy,

We have not a shred of evidence that they have converted in the
slightest bit to Democracy or Capitalism...other than their 
pronouncements.  Their laws haven't changed in any significant
way, other than allowing whole families to travel outside the
country without leaving behind one family member as a "hostage"

Big fucking deal.

They're still as much of a communist country as before, where
the ONLY way to advance is to sell your soul to the devil.



> however; it might be possible that some ultranationalist regime would
> appear that decides to "rescue" ethnic Russians outside of Russia by
> rebuilding some of the old empire (this is inspired by the favorite Nazi
> claim that ethnic Germans were being beaten up in eastern Europe).
> 

Count on it.  The moment the west fails to give into one of their
demands for assistance, within months, the country will suddenly
"destabilize"...there will be some excuse for a special election,
(maybe a plane crash, and it will be claimed that the President
was on board, the corpses badly burned in the fire) and some
ultra-nationalist will be the replacement.

This will be...punishment ... for not yielding to the "give me
your lunch money" bullying tactics.



> --
> Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 03:50:54 -0400

Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> >1. you have no right to Education.
> >2. You have no right to health care.
> >3. You have no right to law enforcement...BUT...the law
> >       enforcement agencies plus courts and jails are
> >       constitutionally mandated.  And as long as the
> >       government is not kidnapping people to make them
> >       prison guards, police officers, or judges, then
> >       nobody's rights are violated here.
> 
>         Thus, someone who mugs Mr. Kulkis is entitled to walk, on the
> ground that nobody is entitled to protection against crime.

Wrong.  You have the right to petition the government for redress
of grievances...i.e. prosecution of your attacker.

You just don't have a right to a body guard...because that would
*OBLIGATE* somebody else to be your bodyguard, thereby infringing
on that person's rights.



> 
> >Absolutely not.  EVERYBODY is free to choose a path of self
> >sufficiency.  Those who choose to lollygag around at my expense
> >are worthy of contempt, not compassion.
> 
>         However, outside circumstances can interfere.

purchasing alcohol and/or other drugs.


> 
> >True.  It's still a lousy system, though.  The reason is that
> >it builds a great-affinity with freeloaders of all wealth levels.
> 
>         The Kennedys and the Rockefellers Mr. Kulkis counts as
> freeloaders because they had inherited their wealth -- the same Mr.
> Kulkis who bleats about inheritance taxes.

I have explained why a sales tax is much more ethical, doing
the same job as income taxes and sales taxes without being
susceptible to politcal manipulation of the public on "class
warfare" grounds.


> 
> >> (*)     Most of the schools in Europe are better than most of the private
> >>         schools in the US.
> >That's because they don't have a core of communist-agitating
> >adherents who are doing anything possible to cause their
> >societies to collapse from within.  Conversely, there is a
> >very active and aggresive campaign to cause US society to
> >collapse from within by sabotaging the education system at
> >all levels.

Attention: Loren is about to attempt to shut down further
discussion of this point by the use of inflammatory innuendo.
Notice that it also fails.


> 
>         From a grove of birch trees it came.

Are you saying that lifelong Communists ignore Lenin?




> 
>         I've yet to see any explicit evidence for such a conspiracy, let
> alone a reasonable explanation for why it does not exist in Europe. In
> fact, Europe would likely be a higher priority for the SU than the US.
> Consider the dreaded fate of "Finlandization", in which Western European
> nations would become extremely afraid of displeasing the SU.
> 
> >Name one Kennedy or Rockefeller who isn't a parasite.
> 
>         They are no more parasitic than any other inheritor of old money.

So, you admit that they are, in fact, parasites.

Nomorequestionsyerhoner.

> 
> --
> Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Slava Pestov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Lycos Selected Microsoft and Intel
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 17:55:52 +1000

In article <WzFh5.1913$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Drestin Black"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Chad Myers wrote:
>> >
>> > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> > > it's "web search" is handled either by inktomi or Fast
>> >
>> > How do you know this?
>> >
>> > -Chad
>>
>> Because I worked at FAST and was a technical contact for Lycos.
> 
> Do you work there now?

Where do *you* work, Drestin? C'mon, tell us the truth.

> I'm certain the answer is no because you would
> know that that relationship was dissolved over dissatisfaction with the
> reliability and performance of that "solution."

And how are you professional relationships doing, Drestin? Been making
new contacts in the porn industry lately?

> Lycos switch to Wintel to improve performance and reliability. Think
> what that says about what they were using before...

Does your porn site run on Wintel, Drestin?

Slava

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