Linux-Advocacy Digest #241, Volume #33            Sun, 1 Apr 01 00:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux dying ("Stephen S. Edwards II")
  Re: Communism, and Communist propaganda agents in the USA....*STILL* ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  MS patent lawyer on open source (tom hanlon)
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software ("Les Mikesell")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dying
Date: 1 Apr 2001 04:51:57 GMT

Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

: On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 01:39:22 +0200, Roy Culley wrote:
: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: >     [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi) writes:
: >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:45:16 +0200, Ayende Rahien wrote:
: >> 
: >> No, SunOS was based on BSD, new versions of Solaris are SysV based.
: >
: >SunOS 4.x and earlier were based on BSD. SunOS 5.x is based on SysV.
: >Solaris is a complete environment OS plus GUI and applications. Solaris
: >1.x had SunOS 4.x underneath. Solaris 2.x and later have SunOS 5.x
: >underneath.

: By SunOS, I don't mean "SunOS 5", and by Solaris, I don't mean "Sun OS 4".
: Sun did this funny thing with the names to confuse people, but it is not
: uncommon to use "SunOS" to specifically mean the older version (and Solaris
: to mean the new SysV version).

This reminds me of the time I was explaining to a person
at work that Silicon Graphics Inc. is now officially
called "SGI".

Me:  Well, officially, they're called "SGI" now.
He:  But SGI stands for Silicon Graphics Inc., right?
Me:  Well, yes, but they're not officially called "Silicon Graphics"
     anymore.
He:  *blink-blink* *blank stare*
Me:  Think of it in relationship to "IBM".  Nobody calls them
     "International Business Machines" anymore, unless they're
     talking about ancient history.
He:  I see.  That is stupid.
Me:  Hence the term, "marketdroids".

I'm beginning to wonder if anything commercial is
capable of making sense these days.  :-P

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Communism, and Communist propaganda agents in the USA....*STILL*
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:56:02 -0500

Scott Erb wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > The German economy in the 30's was certainly not a centrally planned
> > > economy, and was one of the world's only booming economies (making
> > > people like Charles Lindbergh say America could learn from Nazi
> > > Germany).  It was an untenable boom, based on an arms build up, but it
> > > certainly wasn't anything like Stalinist Russia's policies.
> > >
> >
> > There is a LOT of "central planning" in the economic sector of
> > a fascist economy.  Look at the economic structure of Japan.
> 
> Japan is certainly not fascist.  Do you just make this stuff up as you
> go?

You are truly ignorant of the structure of Japanese society.

Its economy is completely vertically integrated....just like Italy
and Germany in the 1930's.

It is an extremely racist society....probably the most racist society
on the planet.  Here's a concise summation of the average Japanese
person's view on race: "We Japanese are the elite of the earth.
Other oriental nations are close, but markedly inferior to us.
All non-oriental races are subhuman.  Africans are closer to
the other primates than they are to us, *THE* Japanese."

Every once in a while, some Japanese politician makes a remark in
public about his views of America's black citizens, asking such
questions which range from "Why doesn't the US government send them
back to Africa" through "Why doesn't the US government lock them up
in cages" all the way to "Why doesn't the US government exterminate them."

Do some research (Nexis/Lexis is your friend..albeit expensive), and
you will find reports of these sorts of comments from AP/UPI/Reuters, etc.




> 
> > Mitsubishi owns thousands upon thousands of subsidiary businesses,
> > all for benefit of Mitsubishi.  This organization comprises
> > about 10% of the Japanese economy.
> 
> Yeah, that's capitalism in action for you, big corporations controlling
> a lot of economic activity.

No, that's FASCISM.

In the United States, the Fortune 500 accounts for less than 5% of the
economy.

Hope that helps, disinformation agent.



> 
> > There are fewer than 15
> > nearly identical economic power structures in the Japanese
> > economy...and they all do the same thing.
> 
> Corporations world wide seek to benefit corporations.  Capitalism.

No.  Corporations seek to make a profit.  In fact, in the United States,
if the Board of Directors, and key Officers (CEO, VP's, Treasurer, etc.),
are derilect in their duty to attempt to maximize the corporation's
profit (within the bounds of LEGAL behavior), then those individuals
can be SUED by the stockholders for damages.

> 
> > Germany and Italy were the same way.
> 
> Capitalist?  OK, but their systems of government were fascist.  Fascism
> can co-exist with capitalism, of course.

No, you moron...they were NOT capitalist, they were Fascist.



> 
> > The only difference between the economic "planning" of Communism,
> > and the planning in a fascist economy is that under Communism, the
> > planning is done by politicians and/or their appointees, who write
> > a law, and issue it to the factory owners.
> >
> > In fascism, the factory owners (i.e. the bigwigs at the top of
> > each of these industrial pyramids) tend to get together, and
> > then compose a law to give to the politicians, who rubber stamp
> > it (out of fear of falling out of favor with the factory owners).
> 
> That's capitalism, or monopoly capitalism, and that is indeed a danger,
> but it is a misuse of terms to mix that up with fascism (something a lot
> of people on the Left do frequently).

No, that is ***NOT**** Capitalism, you ninny.

I already PROPERLY described that economic structure as being one
of the primary definitive aspects of Fascism as opposed to other
politico-economic systems.



> 
> > Absolutely.  Do some research, and you will see.
> 
> I've done research, I teach courses on comparative politics.
> 
> Perhaps you need to define fascism more clearly, and explain what you
> mean, your assertions are all very murky at this point.

Scott, why don't you lay off USENET until you are capable of writing
material which isn't 90% lies and leftist propaganda.




-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:02:52 -0500

"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 31 Mar 2001
> >Roger Perkins wrote:
> >>
> >> Again you illustrate both your stupidity and your ignorance.  Ignoring your
> >> childish use of caps, show me that law that makes democracy illegal?  I
> >
> >Let's see...Roger swore to uphold and defend the Constitution from all
> >enemies, foreign and domestic...and even claims to teach at a college,
> >and the old fuckhead doesn't even know what the Constitution says.
> >
> >Care to cite ANY section or sections of the US Constitution which
> >supposedly establish the US as a "democracy" ???
>    [...]
> >Note that there is NO provision for the people to directly vote on
> >anything.  Therefore, the US Federal government is *NOT* a democracy.
> 
> What about the one where we elect representatives?  Since every citizen
> has a right to vote in these elections, the US Federal government is a
> democracy.  A democratic republic, in fact.
> 
>    [...]
> >See above.  Any STATE government which attempts to practice "Democracy"
> >will be struck down.
> 
> In which state does a citizen not have a vote?  Besides Florida, I mean.

Who, besides Felons, and overseas military personnel was denied the right
to vote in Florida?

And who, besides the overseas military personnel, were ILLEGALLY
denied the right to vote in Florida?



> 
> >Case in Point: Colorado recently passed a law regarding homosexual rights
> >by "popular referendum".  It was struck down the US Supreme Court on
> >the basis of Article IV, Section 4--that the law was (supposedly) passed
> >using 'democratic' methods (which are illegal) instead of the Constitutionally
> >mandated republican procedure of getting the law passed in the LEGISLATURE.
> >
> >Any State or Federal "law" which is not passed by the legislature is,
> >in fact, not a law.
> 
> Nor is any state or federal law which *IS* passed by the legislature,
> but then later, as in this case, struck down by the courts.

True, but this does NOT change the fact that 

> 
> And, yes, referendums are proof that the US is a democracy.

Referendums are illegal.

Colorado recently had a gay-rights law (I forget which whether
it "limited" them, or "expanded" them....doesn't matter) struck
down in FEDERAL COURT...on the sole basis that it came into being
by way of popular referendum on the ballot.

The opponents of the law cited the first clause of Article IV, Section 4
of the US Constitution:

   The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   Republican Form of Government,  and shall protect each of them
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the
   Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.

http://www.nara.gov/exhall/charters/constitution/constitution.html
US Government, National Archives and Records Administration.

Read it and weep.


> 
> --
> T. Max Devlin
>   *** The best way to convince another is
>           to state your case moderately and
>              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom hanlon)
Subject: MS patent lawyer on open source
Date: 1 Apr 2001 05:03:09 GMT

I had the opportunity to hear T. Andrew Culbert yesterday in a public
IP continuing legal education forum in Seattle.

He is " a Senior Corporate Attorney for Microsoft Corporation and the
attorney principally responsible for handling ms's patent infringement
litigation."

This is what he said on open source software.

Its problem is that the software is not warranteed in any way. It is
distributed without a warrantee. 

He really had nothing more to say on the subject. 

I guess this may or may not be enough to stir up any kind of
discussion.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:04:56 -0500

Mathew wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> 
> > Brian Turner wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Barry Manilow wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Craig Kelley wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > China is practically a capitalist country right now.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, they are beginning to see the light.
> > > >
> > > > However, the brutal ways of their Communist Revolution and
> > > > subsequent Cultural Revolution are still with them.
> > >
> > > Another "way still with them" is that Mao is still a hero to most Chinese.
> > > A 'National Review' reporter was recently shocked and apalled by this, he
> > > couldn't explain this bizarre situation.  It couldn't possibly be that he
> > > had his facts wrong...it had to be that they are brainwashed idiots or
> > > something.
> >
> > Actually, brainwashing is much easier to accomplish than you
> > might think.
> >
> >
> >
> > Go to Russia and you see the same thing with Lenin.   Statues of
> > Lenin are still quite easy to find.  And he's still spoken of as
> > a hero.   As if delivering the peasants from their erstwhile
> > freedom back into his own slavery cum personality cult was some
> > sort of heroic deed on his part.
> 
> >
> > I think the footage of "statue dismantlings" were for the consumption
> > of Western policy makers and so on.
> 
> I know,the U.S. is putting statues of Reagan everywhere,as well as naming
> airports after him.
> 


That's because he was one of the greatest freedom-fighters of
the 20th Century.

Did you know that in Russia, Ronald Reagan is more popular than
ANY of their political leaders in the last 20 years...

Do you know why?


> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > > I would venture to say that the Cuban system kills few.  Certainly, in
> > > > > the rest of Latin America, capitalism is a killing machine.  At least
> > > >
> > > > No...that would be socialism.
> > >
> > > Who killed the 100,000 Guatemalans (1980-92), the 60,000 El Salvadorans
> > > (1981-94), 30,000 Nicaraguans (1977-79)?  Commies?  No, sorry, it was US
> > > puppet military dictators.
> > >
> > > > I can make pronouncements till I'm blue in the face about how I am
> > > dedicated
> > > > to providing food, shelter, medical care, and sanitation to all the people
> > > > I'm locking up as prison labor in a [Cuban] gulag.
> > >
> > > yeah, all 200 of them.  MAJOR gulag huh?
> >
> > That's 200 too many.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Re: your claim that communism cannot exist without totalitarian states,
> > > please see Israel in the first 30 years or so after their founding
> > > (kibbutzim, moshavim, urban co-ops).  Also read Orwell's 'Homage to
> > > Catalonia' or any thing else about the Spanish anarcho-syndicalists
> > > pre-Franco.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> > K: Truth in advertising:
> >       Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> >       Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> >       Special Interest Sierra Club,
> >       Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> >       Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> >       The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> >       Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> >
> >
> > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> >    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> >    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> >
> > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> >    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> >    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> >    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> >
> > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> >     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> >     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> >     you are lazy, stupid people"
> >
> > G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> >
> >
> > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> >    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> >
> > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> >    her behavior improves.
> >
> > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> >    ...despite (C) above.
> >
> > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> >
> > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> >    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> >    direction that she doesn't like.
> >
> > A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.
> >
> >


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 05:07:28 GMT


"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Les Mikesell in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:14:08
> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >> >Exactly how do you imagine a separate library that existed before
> >> >the GPL'd component would become 'derived from' this GPL'd
> >> >component if they happen to be linked together at some future date?
> >>
> >> The same way you imagine that software has functional purpose but is
> >> still covered by copyright.
> >
> >I can't parse any meaning at all out of that.  A cookbook has functional
> >purpose but is not exempt from copyright.
>
> The recipes *in* the cookbook have no functional purpose, nor does the
> book itself.  They may have functional value (another, related concept
> I've used, which may have confused you if you didn't recognize that they
> are distinct), but they have no functional purpose.  Software has
> functional purpose: it "runs", it "does something".  If it does not
> execute and perform the intended functions, it is "wrong".

Err, no.  Software doesn't 'run' or perform anything.   It is a set of
instructions that a CPU follows just like a cook may follow a cookbook.


> >> If the part were 'doing its own work', then it wouldn't require other
> >> parts to do work for it, would it?
> >
> >Imagine two jugglers who sometimes throw their balls to each
> >other.  Is one juggler derived from the other?   Will the act work the
> >same if the other isn't there to throw the ball back at the right time?
>
> If I'm not mistaken, one can copyright a juggling performance, but one
> cannot copyright a juggler.

The point is that if you have legally obtained a library, you have the
right for it to do anything you throw at it.

>  Is the juggler's performance "derived" from
> the other juggler's performance?  It seems so to me, and to the courts,
> as both jugglers will share all rights to whatever act they develop.

What does that mean?   Are you going to claim that tossing a ball back
and forth with one person forever contaminates your right to do the
same with a different partner?

> And should one of them go on to bigger and better things, any act which
> he develops in the future which is based on the original act is, in
> fact, derived from it, yes.

I am talking about the situation where each has a pre-defined library
of routines to mirror the software case and the performance involves
time-sliced exchanges of control of the ball|cpu.    The individual
parts are unchanged and certainly can't become 'derived' from
each other by mere proximity after their development.

       Les Mikesell
          [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:10:08 -0500

Barry Manilow wrote:
> 
> Mathew wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > > Go to Russia and you see the same thing with Lenin.   Statues of
> > > Lenin are still quite easy to find.  And he's still spoken of as
> > > a hero.   As if delivering the peasants from their erstwhile
> > > freedom back into his own slavery cum personality cult was some
> > > sort of heroic deed on his part.
> >
> In what way was feudalism, starvation, and abject poverty "freedom",
> Aaron?

Spot the communist propaganda.

The serfs were freed in the 1870's moron.  Feudalism doesn't
exist if you have no serfs.


Starvation and abject poverty:  no worse than Cuba and North Korea
are ***RIGHT*** ***NOW***.   And both modern day Cuba and N.K.
have electric power plants, automobiles, railroads, etc.  All of
those things which should make it MUCH easier for people to improve
their standard of living.

Oh..and by the way....the last time I was in Russia...a guy and his
girlfriend took me out to his grandparent's house for the day.  The
village was, oh..about 30 miles away from downtown St. Petersburg.

NO RUNNING WATER
NO INDOOR TOILET
NO ELECTRICITY

And this wasn't a recent decline in the standard of living...
that *IS* the standard of living after 80 years of Communism.



Hope that helps ASSHOLE


By the way Bob...why don't you post your LAST name?

Or are you afraid that you will be made liable for your crimes.


> --
> Bob
> Being flamed?  Don't know why?  Take the Flame Questionnaire(TM)
> today!
> Why do you think you are being flamed?
> [ ] You continued a long, stupid thread
> [ ] You started an off-topic thread
> [ ] You posted something totally uninteresting
> [ ] People don't like your tone of voice
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> [ ] None of the above


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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