Linux-Advocacy Digest #344, Volume #32 Tue, 20 Feb 01 06:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Nick Condon)
Re: Microsoft dying, was Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Bloody
Viking)
Re: Font deuglification ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Nick Condon)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Peter Hayes)
Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation (Peter Hayes)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Peter Hayes)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Peter Hayes)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Peter Hayes)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Nick Condon)
Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American (Bloody Viking)
Re: Red Hat Fisher Beta ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola? ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American (Bloody Viking)
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:11:28 +0000
> So if someone were to anonamously start mailing ROT13 UUENCODED gifs or
> other random stuff and entitled it 'SECRET ENCRYPTED BUCKINGHAM BOMB
> PLANS' to random British (l)users, the random British (l)users could get
> arrested?
Yes.
But if this happens, thankfully there is a higher authority to turn to
(European court). This is so clearly against European laws that the
government will lose.
> Who's running the place, Hilter?
An idiotic government.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Condon)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 20 Feb 2001 10:14:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hanson) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Emery Lapinski wrote:
>>
>> "Information wants to be free" is just a metaphor, a different way
>> of thinking that can lead to insights. If you could visulaize
>> information you might see it ebb and flow and expand. It might flow
>> around obstructions or leak out of containers. You might watch it
>> and attribute behaviors to it, and a will, and imagine that it
>> wants to be free.
>>
>> Other examples are memetics or "selfish genes".
>> --
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.panix.com/~ewl/ This post is Copyright 2000 Emery Lapinski
>> and is distributed under the terms and conditions of GNU's General
>> Public License.
>> It's what the astronauts
>> drink!
>
>That's true. I was never too comfortable with the metaphor, either.
>Only people can express a will, or have rights. Information can only be
>free if those owning it agree to free it.
>
How do you feel about "Nature abhors a vacuum"?
--
Nick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft dying, was Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: 20 Feb 2001 10:19:26 GMT
unicat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: The following are the opinions of the author, no more no less...
: You don't understand how serious of a threat Linux is to Microsoft.
Remember that one promotional unveiling that unveiled a BSOD? Talk about a
digital pie in the face. That could have been the beginning of the end of
Microsoft.
The thing that will cause Microsoft itself to BSOD is a GNU office suite,
which now exists, with the GNU'd StarOffice.
What we have here with GNU is like a cancer growth to MS. You can't stop
freely copyable software. With the .NET thingy, MS is nuking their own foot
with the copyright nonsense, which will only accellerate Linux growth.
It's no secret that MS server OSes are unstable while Linux is. Why else would
so many companies have them put in on the sly by their techies? With the .NET
nonsense, EVERYONE is going to look for an alternative, and Linux, with a GNU
office suite, as well as making for perfectly good servers, is it.
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The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Font deuglification
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:21:38 +0000
In article <96solj$l4g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David Steinberg"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andres Soolo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : David Steinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : > : need is the cmr fonts under X.
> : > I agree. Microsoft did a very good job of designing those fonts.
> If
> : Microsoft? AFAIK, the cmr font family was designed by D. E. Knuth ...
>
> Huh? Did I even read the post I responding to?
>
> I really don't remember that last sentence, even though I quoted it in
> my reply. I don't think I even saw "cmr," and I didn't mean to address
> my response to that. I think I was referring to the so-called "TrueType
> core fonts for the web" from Microsoft Typography, which I believe Ed
> had mentioned he had installed.
Yep. I had installed them. I especially like the ones from the Monotype
foundry (times new roman) distributed with windows.
I was also saying that I would like to have cmr avaliable as screen
fonts.
They are designed for low res rendering as well as high res rendering
(would you expact any less detail from Knuth?).
> My apologies for any confusion I might have caused, and especially to
> Donald E. Knuth for inadvertently crediting others for his work.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Condon)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 20 Feb 2001 10:25:20 GMT
ZnU wrote:
>Aaron Kulkis >>>>
>> Leftist socialism is merely fascism in disguise.
>>
>> That's what you get for electing the Labour party.
>
>I can't say I follow UK politics too well, but I doubt that's the
>problem. The problem is that a government typically operates at or
>slightly beyond the legal limits of its authority. With no full
>equivalent of the US Constitution to restrict its powers, the UK
>government can get away with more, and does.
No, the real strength of the American model is the fully separated nature
of its three branches. In the UK these three branches are incompletely
separated and overlap somewhat. e.g. the Executive is drawn from the House
of Commons; the highest court is the House of Lords, etc. Party loyalties
are very, very strong in the Commons so a popular leader with a strong
majority can totally dominate the legislature.
--
Nick
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:31:19 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:17:37 +0000, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And before you slag me off as a rabid Microserf as well, Max, I've no
> > love of Gates and his cronies. But printing under Linux is a disaster
> > and has been since the days of RedHat 4.1 and Slackware 3 at least, also
> > something called Linux FT that I tried years ago. It didn't matter then,
> > but if Linux is to replace Windows as the desktop of the future, then it
> > *does* matter now.
>
>
> I have an hp 500. It is neither pnp or PS and it prints perfectly. Tye
> redhat printtool.
I've had some successes and some failures with printtool.
Printing is a fundamental requirement. Configuring a printer has to be
addressed with more maturity than expecting the user to fiddle around with
drivers on a per application basis.
Peter
--
In the 19th century surveyors measured the height of Everest
from 500 miles away in India.
This cannot be repeated today. Everest is no longer visible from
the survey location due to increased atmospheric pollution.
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:31:20 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:17:29 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> "Marada C. Shradrakaii" wrote:
> >
> > >And what's to stop the free product from being "really good" as well?
> > >
> >
> > If the free product is "really good", the competition has to be "better than
> > really good". And so on. If users can get X (the variable, not the window
> > system) for free, you have to provide > X to free banknotes from users'
> > wallets.
>
> And THAT is what has Gates and Allchin and Allen FUCKING PISSED OFF!
Oh, I don't think Gates and Allchin are pissed off at anything to do with
Open Source. It's all part of a carefully orchestrated campaign to convince
the Courts that M$ aren't a monopoly after all.
Peter
--
In the 19th century surveyors measured the height of Everest
from 500 miles away in India.
This cannot be repeated today. Everest is no longer visible from
the survey location due to increased atmospheric pollution.
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:31:21 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:09:17 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Joshua Hesse wrote:
> >
> > In comp.sys.next.advocacy Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > :On 19 Feb 2001 01:41:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking) wrote:
> >
> > :> The "information wants to be free" idea comes from the GNU ideology as well as
> > :> freeware crypto with PGP. PGP is "Pretty Good Privacy", data encryption strong
> > :> enough that even the most resource posessing rogue government (i.e. the US
> > :> government) can't crack it.
> >
> > :Unlike the UK where you get 2 years in jail if you don't provide the most
> > :fascist government in decades (if ever, and that includes Thatcher) with
> > :the key on demand - even if you've no idea what it is, and 5 years in jail
> > :if you tell anyone about their request for said key.
> >
> > :So no massively parallel processor needed.
> >
> > So if someone were to anonamously start mailing ROT13 UUENCODED gifs or
> > other random stuff and entitled it 'SECRET ENCRYPTED BUCKINGHAM BOMB PLANS'
> > to random British (l)users, the random British (l)users could get
> > arrested?
> >
> > Who's running the place, Hilter?
>
> Nobody nearly as sane as that...
You have it in one, Aaron.
Trouble is, they're as popular as Hitler was in the 30's. Up another 5%
just today, despite Lord Irvine's shenannagins.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
- Santayana
Peter
--
In the 19th century surveyors measured the height of Everest
from 500 miles away in India.
This cannot be repeated today. Everest is no longer visible from
the survey location due to increased atmospheric pollution.
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:31:22 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Feb 2001 02:35:13 GMT, Joshua Hesse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.sys.next.advocacy Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :On 19 Feb 2001 01:41:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking) wrote:
>
> :> The "information wants to be free" idea comes from the GNU ideology as well as
> :> freeware crypto with PGP. PGP is "Pretty Good Privacy", data encryption strong
> :> enough that even the most resource posessing rogue government (i.e. the US
> :> government) can't crack it.
>
> :Unlike the UK where you get 2 years in jail if you don't provide the most
> :fascist government in decades (if ever, and that includes Thatcher) with
> :the key on demand - even if you've no idea what it is, and 5 years in jail
> :if you tell anyone about their request for said key.
>
> :So no massively parallel processor needed.
>
> So if someone were to anonamously start mailing ROT13 UUENCODED gifs or
> other random stuff and entitled it 'SECRET ENCRYPTED BUCKINGHAM BOMB PLANS'
> to random British (l)users, the random British (l)users could get
> arrested?
Only if they can't produce decryption keys.
There was a suggestion to mail Jack Straw, the Home Secretary responsible
for the Act, with encrypted files, then anonymously inform the authorities
that he was in possession of said files. He couldn't produce the keys, so 2
years in the slammer.
Of course, you can't tell anyone about this or you get 5 years.
> Who's running the place, Hilter?
Close.
Peter
--
In the 19th century surveyors measured the height of Everest
from 500 miles away in India.
This cannot be repeated today. Everest is no longer visible from
the survey location due to increased atmospheric pollution.
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:31:23 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:36:57 +0000, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter Hayes"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 19 Feb 2001 01:41:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking) wrote:
> >
> >> The "information wants to be free" idea comes from the GNU ideology as
> >> well as freeware crypto with PGP. PGP is "Pretty Good Privacy", data
> >> encryption strong enough that even the most resource posessing rogue
> >> government (i.e. the US government) can't crack it.
> >
> > Unlike the UK where you get 2 years in jail if you don't provide the
> > most fascist government in decades (if ever, and that includes Thatcher)
> > with the key on demand - even if you've no idea what it is, and 5 years
> > in jail if you tell anyone about their request for said key.
>
>
> If you took them to the European court of human rights, the govt would
> get slaughtered.
You'd get 5 years for telling.
> I hope that happens soon; it really needs to.
Absolutely.
Peter
--
In the 19th century surveyors measured the height of Everest
from 500 miles away in India.
This cannot be repeated today. Everest is no longer visible from
the survey location due to increased atmospheric pollution.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Condon)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 20 Feb 2001 10:37:39 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.B Moreno) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Andrew J. Brehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Brehm) wrote:
>-snip GPL has strings attached, limiting projects-
>> > > No, it is the other licenses that limit the kinds of projects into
>> > > which GPLed code can be incorporated. The GPL discriminates
>> > > against nobody.
>-snip-
>> > Please. This is one of the most absurd statements I've ever seen.
>> > It's blatantly false. You can use GPLed code in a project only if
>> > you wish to release that entire project under the GPL. BSD and many
>> > other licenses have no such restriction. GPL is viral. These other
>> > licenses are not.
>>
>> What is the problem with releasing the entire project under the GPL as
>> opposed to releasing it under a BSD license?
>
>Uhm, you seem to be combining the two "project"'s in the above.
>
>Say Project One is a Text Editing Library (something like WASTE).
>
>Say Project Two is a Text Editor.
>
>If Project One is under GPL then the Project Two must also be under GPL.
>OTOH, if Project One is under BSD then Project Two needn't be BSD or GPL
>or anything else in particular.
If Project One is under the BSD, there is no guarantee that Project Two
will ever see the source code. The GPL provides that guarantee.
>BSD gives the people developing Project Two more choices, more choices
>are good.
And the GPL gives the people *using* a project more choices, more choices
are good.
Richard Stallman, one of the most prolific developers of all time, created
the GPL because he saw his rights *as user* being eroded. Specifically, he
found a bug in a printer driver. When he brought it to the attention of the
manufacturer they said they didn't have the resource to fix it right now.
He said show me the code and I'll do it, but they refused.
He, as a developer and user, felt the balance of rights was skewed too
heavily toward the developer. YMMV.
--
Nick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Subject: Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American
Date: 20 Feb 2001 10:42:50 GMT
Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Interesting...can you explain the mechanism/usual chain of events?
: I'm curious.
An oil peak for any oilfield follows a pattern, as the late oil geologist M
King Hubbert noticed. It goes like this.
As an oilfield is found, production obviously starts at zero and climbs as
wells are added. At some point, discovery of new wells peaks and goes into
decline as more dry holes are drilled. After a time delay, production peaks,
and declines at some rate until the last well is capped.
It works out that the same holds true of regions too, and when about half the
recoverable oil is sucked out, production peaks for the oilfield or region, as
of course, oil is not found in caverns like giant fuel tanks. Instead, oil has
to seep around the nooks and crannies of the rocks.
How oil peaks disrupt economies is simple. An economy requires energy to run,
and it did when our apeman ancestors traded flint axes on up to now. In the
old days, it was stored solar with the crops or the wood to rub 2 sticks
together, and of course now with fossil fuels. What an oil peak does in a
region unable to import oil (like the OPEC embargo) is disrupt the economy
becuse EVERYTHING depends on cheap energy. The food has to be shipped, people
have to commute, the fileservers use electricity, etc.
There is no real substitute for energy in an economy, whatever the source. It
works out that transportation is as of now almost entirely dependant on the
black fuel, oil. While we can burn coal, tar sands, and even some shales for
electricity (Estonia burns shale for electricity), transportation works best
with a nice dense easy method of energy storage like petrol or diesel.
Economic disruption is assured when global oil production peaks becuse now we
have to retool our whole economy to use electric trains powered from coal or
shale or tar sand, sailing ships, trolley buses instead of cars, etc. There is
some debate in eco-newsgroups whether this could cause civilisation to
collapse or not. But economic disruption is assured.
Check out http://www.oilcrisis.com
And if you like to read some macabre rantings from an eco-wacko on this topic,
try this site:
http://www.dieoff.com
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat Fisher Beta
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:53:23 +0600
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> I decided to load this beta version of Red Hat Linux,
> 7.0.90. I did the upgrade to my RH 7 setup.
I installed it on a couple of systems over the past couple of weekends
too. I did clean installs instead of upgrades, because I like to clear
out all the trash and kludges that accumulate on my systems.
> Got my IDE-SCSI back up, found that the rtl8139.o module
> is replaced by 8139too.o, which is not well regarded
> on Donald Becker's site, but seems to do the job okay.
> Got ssh back up, nfs, remote printing, Netscape.
Yeah, the SSH exploit was what made me decide to go ahead and upgrade.
I've been wanting some of the other stuff, but wasn't really in any rush
over it.
> All in all, I like this 2.4 kernel. Even the video
> looks a little better in some subtle way I can't put my
> finger on.
I've always been happy with my display, except for a few Web sites.
Linux Today uses some creepy font that only looks OK when you add
TrueType support. I did set up TT support for XF4, but LT still looks
ragged for some reason. I haven't had time to troubleshoot it yet.
Also, it appears that XF4 still doesn't support DPMS for terminal
shutdown. It blanks the screen on cue, but never puts the monitor in
standby or shutdown mode. (I think I noticed that in a release note a
few weeks back, so I was warned. Still, I look forward to having it
again.)
> However, I can't get hdparm to improve the disk performance
> like I could with the 2.2 kernel, so I'm thinking deep
> thoughts about that.
I needed to repartition to make more space under certain mount points,
and I didn't have a place to back everything up, so I went out and
bought an ATA-100 drive and PCI controller for it. Both work like a
charm.
> I think Red Hat has to be careful, or they're going to
> have shitty upgrade problems akin to those you get upgrading
> from NT to 2000 Pro. On the other hand, I see so many things
> that Red Hat (and other distros) bring you.
Yeah, there are lots of changes. I use the same NIC driver that you do,
and XF4 will be a big change for lots of people. OpenSSH needs new
setup if you want to use the v2 protocol. Network configuration has
changed somewhat (inetd ==> xinetd), and some of the old tools have
changed and various other things will catch people if they don't read up
in advance (who does?).
OTOH, the niceness keeps on coming. The graphical installer will keep
Windows refugees happy. New hardware is detected at boot time, and
automatically configured. (That last was pretty nice for me this time,
since I've been pulling disks in and out, and generally shuffling
hardware between my two systems.)
Next weekend I'm going to introduce myself to the joys of firewalling
and IP masquerading.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:56:01 +0600
Mig wrote:
> No way Ed. The guy doing the filtering has done an excellent job in
> keeping spam and excesice X-posting off the server. I doubt though that he
> has an eye on Aaron. My guess is that Aarons ISP is on some anti-spam list
> that my admin uses but i cant check since i cant see Aarons headers and im
> to lazy to do a search on deja.com.
Aaron probably gets KF'd due to his annoying habit of posting one line of
text plus a 30 line .sig.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Subject: Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American
Date: 20 Feb 2001 11:03:48 GMT
Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: China has no copyright laws...and there isn't a damn thing that
: Gates can do about it.
Except maybe lobby the DoD to tell China to pass a copyright law or get nuked.
Not that it would make a difference as the DoD has a way bigger money supply
than Gates. And nukes don't repeal natural laws...
: > A few years ago, I predicted that China will never be a huge consumer market
: > when a fuckwitted bitch with a Master Bullshit Artist degree asked me about
: > the global mail operation at the annex where I worked. I was right. I pissed
: > her off pretty bad when I pointed out that the Chinese version of Joe Average
: > simply doesn't have money to blow on Victoria's Secret lingerie.
: true.
I'd love to see the typical MBA cirriculum, just for a laugh. I don't seem to
be too bad as an economist.
: > The McDonald's execs thought they were cute when they opened 100 stores all
: > over Asia in "emerging markets" and lost their shirt.
: There are emerging markets...just not in China.
: Malaysia and Thailand...now they're worth paying attention to.
Check the GDP/population ratio before you try to sell consumer goods. A
billion people doesn't mean a billion consumers.
: > During the NAFTA debate, I made the prediction that consumer goods would be
: > slow sellers under the border. Sure as shit, I was right.
: yup
The average Mexican makes a buck an hour, ten times the Chinese average. And
Mexico is still about a non-market for consumer goods.
: > Bill Gates is forgetting the first law of economics:
: > You can't sell product to people without money.
: Woooooo hoo!
: :-)
Ignore my law at your peril, Bill!
: > That one simple law of nature explains why you don't see a Macy's in a town of
: > trailer parks. Same with the lack of grocery supermarkets in projects. Any MBA
: > ignoring that law does so at his or her own economic peril. That law has been
: > time tested by all the examples above and it always works. If Bill Gates
: > thinks that the Chinese people can pay up for software when they have to take
: > out a loan on a used bicycle, he is utterly deluded.
: >
: > Just becuse the non-market is halfway around the world doesn't mean the laws
: > of nature are repealed. The McMBAs forgot that fact when they set up stores
: > selling burgers that cost a worker TWO DAYS wages for one sandwich.
: Should have used local labor to produce the patties locally, rather
: than shipping from the US.
I'm sure they tried. But a populace making a dime an hour can't afford McCrap.
But alas, the McMBAs ignored the simple fact that you can't sell product to
people without money. HELLO!!!! Now it's Bill Gates' turn to test my first law
of economics. At his peril, of course.
In case you are wondering, I discovered a second law of economics to match the
first.
Advertising always destroys the communications medium in with it's allowed to
exist without restraint.
(examples: spam, telemarketers, junk mail, arguably radio and TV)
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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