Linux-Advocacy Digest #344, Volume #35 Sun, 17 Jun 01 19:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Will MS get away with this one? (Peter Hayes)
Re: what the heck is going on with the NYSE? ("David Caldwell")
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! ("Quantum Leaper")
Re: PC power switch wont shut down Windows (Greg Cox)
Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags (Dave Martel)
Re: More microsoft innovation (Woofbert)
Re: Is Linux for me? (Jack Tripper)
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! ("Quantum Leaper")
Re: PC power switch wont shut down Windows (LShaping)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Charles Lyttle)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" ("Daniel Johnson")
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" ("Daniel Johnson")
Re: PC power switch wont shut down Windows (LShaping)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:26:21 -0400
Rick wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Rick wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rick wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > drsquare wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:39:01 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > > > > > > (Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Perhaps this is why he never gets any sex.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I do...with WOMEN.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Women. Thats plural. Thats multiple sexual partners. Well, did you know
> > > > > > > >your risk of contracting HIV is increasing exponentially?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which is also going against all the right-wing idealism he seems to
> > > > > > > favour so much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > false premise.
> > > > > > I'm NOT right wing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right wing and Left-wing political views are BOTH a form of SOCIALISM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and...since I'm a libertarian, and libertarians are opposed to socialism
> > > > > > in ALL forms, that means that I am opposed to right-wingers just as
> > > > > > strongly as left-wingers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope that helps, you politically illiterate MORON.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > >
> > > > > I repeat.
> > > > > Women. Thats plural. Thats multiple sexual partners. Well, did you know
> > > > > your risk of contracting HIV is increasing exponentially?
> > > >
> > > > No, that would be LINEARLY, you idiot.
> > > >
> > > > And that's based on the assumption that I engage in the SPECIFIC
> > > > acts which make one open to infection.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I love it fools who show their ignorance, arrogance and bigotry.
> > > Sex with multiple partners is having sex with more than one person at a
> > > time, or having mutltiple partners serially.
> > >
> > > And, unless you confine yourself to oral sex, you ARE engaging in
> > > activity which makes you open to infection.
> > >
> > > You really should take an AIDS Awareness Course.
> >
> > My mother's a nurse. Through the medical publications she gets, I've
> > been thoroughly aware of the issues since the beginning of the outbreak.
> >
>
> You may be aware of the issues, but you are not aware of the actual
> facts. You mother may be a nurse, but you are not. I, on the other hand,
> routinely teach AIDS awarentss courses to medical professionals.
Do you teach the men not to have homosexual sex?
Yes or no?
Well?????
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will MS get away with this one?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:27:18 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:36:54 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Which "little guy" are you referring to? Is he a metaphoric "little
> guy", or do you have some real "little guy" in mind.
The guy I knew who bought a Quadra NuBus just before Apple ditched NuBus.
This obsoleted his kit overnight and two years later he was out of business.
And the clone makers who had their licences withdrawn, although I've no
personal experience of that.
Peter
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From: "David Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: what the heck is going on with the NYSE?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:34:32 -0500
Just another of the Winbloze problems and the open holes in its security
mechanism. Problem will be fixed when they follow the instructions below:
1) Pull head out of arse.
2) Investigate better OS for the running of the network.
3) Decide that MS stock is high because they make money off of broken shit.
4) use Unix/Linux to fix problem and maintain security.
David Caldwell
dns at knology dot net
"Anonymous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> what the heck is going on with the NYSE?
> How can a "computer problem" halt trading?
> I thought their networks were fault tolerant!
>
> Maybe they should use a Linux fault tolerant
> cluster!
>
> IBM, please help the NYSE out!
>
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From: "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:31:53 GMT
"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:51:47 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ("Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >> >> Linux has DVD support for several drives, details are in the HOWTO.
> >> >> This has been available since before XP had a day one.
> >> >>
> >> >True, if you want DATA only, I want to play movies.
> >>
> >> Then buy a DVD player.
> >
> >How do you know I don't have a real DVD player? It may be in another
room
> >or someone else is using it, so to play my DVDs, I would have to buy
> >another DVD player with your logic.
>
> And using your own logic, you'd have to buy a DVD player for your
> computer. Which would be preferable?
>
Hmmm.... a coax connection to my TV or output to my monitor? I have
output my DVD to my TV, so I perfer my monitor, its alot better! If I
had a TV with component or something better than coax, I might think about
buying a real DVD.
Before you say something you should try output though coax vs. component,
with a DVD or even PSX2, the difference is amazing! So it the same thing
with my monitor and my TV.
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From: Greg Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: PC power switch wont shut down Windows
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:33:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> But that really
> does not matter anyway since Windows could unconditionally send a shut
> down signal to the mainboard. Instead, Windows polls itself to see if
> shutting down is OK. Bad idea. I am the one who tells my computer
> what to do. If I wanted to mess with Windows logic, I would use the
> Start - Shut Down path.
>
Yea, it's really stupid of Windows to take the time to notify all running
programs that the user wants to shut down so they have the ability to
clean themselves up and close down gracefully before power is removed.
WHAT could Microsoft possibly have been thinking of?
That's the reason that the Start - Shutdown command exists. Any
intelligent user uses it to shutdown their computer.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:36:40 -0600
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:38:46 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie
Ebert) wrote:
>Then there is the economic concerns about your lightbulb.
>Our 30 year old lightbulb is free and it works better for you.
>
>Your's costs $580 for the full install.
>
>Further, your lightbulb can be accessed by the neighbors as they
>keep turning the light out on your when you least want that.
And if you forget to pay your lease Microsoft shuts it off for good.
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More microsoft innovation
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:38:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, macman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But why should I have to go to great lengths to
> stop Microsoft from defacing my page?
Because Microsoft has started a software arms race. They make browsers
that deface web sites, others make web servers that deal with it.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: Jack Tripper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Linux for me?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:45:24 -0500
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:14:58 -0400, Nigel Feltham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>drsquare wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:43:37 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> (GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>>
>>>Ayende Rahien wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Jack Tripper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>>>
>>>> Please shorten your sig.
>>>> 4 lines is considered the maximum polite limit.
>>>
>>>Hmmmm.... are we being trolled again??
>>
>> Well, with his claim of an 8.4 *MEGA* byte hard disk, I suspect he is
>> trolling.
>>
>
>The name Jack Tripper is a bit of a giveaway too - Jack The Ripper?
>
It's from Three's Company. I've also been Stanley Roper.
But no, I'm not 'trolling', thank you.
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From: "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:43:05 GMT
"Peter Köhlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Quantum Leaper wrote:
> >
> > How do you know I don't have a real DVD player? It may be in another
> > room
> > or someone else is using it, so to play my DVDs, I would have to buy
> > another DVD player with your logic. There is one nice feature with
alot
> > of
> > computer DVD player, is you can make it multiply regions easily.
> >
> >
> I do have a DVD-Player which is multi-region (you can set it up to any
> region you want via the infrared control). I preferred to have it that way
> than the other, automatic one, because the jerks in the movie-industry
> have already reacted to that and throw the automatic switchers off.
>
Some DVD players do have multi-region via a remote code, but they don't
tell you about it. I didn't mean to imply that was the only reason to buy
a DVD player for my computer. One of the reason was to play a game,
Dragon Lair and the others, also to play movies.
> No, that feature is certainly not a reason to buy a DVD-drive for the
> computer. Now to read data-discs, thats a valid reason. Viewing movies
> is not (for me. You may think different)
>
Your right it shouldn't be the only reason. My TV only has Coax input, so
the difference between my monitor output and TV is quite abit. If my TV
had component, I may have bought a real DVD player instead of DVD drive. I
have seen the difference with a PS2, and I would assume it about the same
with another DVD player.
This whole thing started about why Linux doesn't support movie playback on a
computer.
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From: LShaping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: PC power switch wont shut down Windows
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:28:22 GMT
Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I now select restart and switch the UPS off when the reboot starts.
>Peter
I have to do that sometimes too. That is the pits, when you have to
turn off the computer as it reboots. That is another good example of
Windows power management dysfunctionallity. And it is getting worse.
You would think that Microsoft management would at least recognise
that computers must do as we instruct them to do. But apparently they
cannot see that. They should read some of the great science fiction
books. Or have some common sense. People will not tollerate
disrespect from thinking machines.
LShaping
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From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:44:35 GMT
Dan wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> macman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Macman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Neither Google nor anonymizer changes the _content_ of pages. If they
> > > > start changing the content, then they should be stopped.
> > >
> > > Smart Tags do not change the *content* of pages, either. It just
> > > presents more navigation options to the individual user.
> > >
> >
> > For a web page, hyperlinks are part of the content.
>
> But Smart Tags are not hyperlinks, are they? They are a locally
> generated pop up Window with navigation aids.
>
> If your page already mentions Microsoft (or Apple, Cisco, Yahoo, Sun
> etc.) I can already cut and paste the word into a Yahoo search and turn
> up pretty much the same links. Smart Tags just save me from having to
> cut and paste. That's really all they do. They don't add anything to
> the page in question.
>
Smartlinks are dynamic and do a google search? This is the first I have
heard of this. I thought they were static, always taking you to the
sites preselected by MS. Can you clear this up for me? How do they
handle searches that return tens of thousands of hits?
> IAC, they are an option. Feel free to ignore them, and I will continue
> to use them, OK?
>
> Dan
--
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"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:42:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:17:25 GMT, Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 06:23:50 -0500, "Erik Funkenbusch"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "macman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > >
> > > > > I can't believe anyone could really try to defend such an
> > > > > absurd position (that Smart Tags are not hyperlinks).
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you don't understand what the Smart Tag is. The Smart
> > > > Tag is *ONLY* the underlining of the word and the mechanism to
> > > > provide a popup. You can put anything you like in the popup
> > > > (with the SDK), and it need not be hyperlinks at all. It could
> > > > just be a graphic image for instance.
> > >
> > > So when I hover over a link to Joe's Autos a SmartTag could pop
> > > up and say "Joe's Autos are crap, you want to buy from Acme
> > > Motors". Am I correct?
> >
> > Probably not.
>
> Why?
SmartTags allow two people to deface web sites.
1. The person browsing the web, affecting only his own browser.
2. Microsoft, affecting all Microsoft SmartTag-enabled browsers with
softfware update.
It apparently does not allow someone else to deface web sites. For
instance, it does not, as far as I know, give you a mechanism to deface
the infernosoft web site. Of course, if it did, I'd still be against
SmartTags.
> Erik said " It could just be a graphic image for instance." And a
> message rubbishing Joe's Autos could "just be a graphic image".
>
> The more I hear about these SmartTags the worse it gets.
I'm with you there.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:53:47 GMT
"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:06:32 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ("Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >"Tim Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[snip]
> >It's the same thing. HTML is simply not the magic
> >you seem to think it is. It's just a file stored on a server
> >and served on demand, just like PDF.
>
> I have yet to see a site which uses PDF entirely in place of HTML.
As I have said, that's because people *want* the flexibility of
HTML- the fact that it does not specify what the end user
sees, but leaves that to the browser, is a big selling point.
Nevertheless, HTML web pages are files that are
served on demand, just like PDF ones.
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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:56:37 GMT
"Tim Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> in article cA4X6.1949$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Daniel
> Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 6/17/01 12:06 PM:
[snip]
> > The functionality it adds is to enable your browser
> > to browse PDF-format pages.
>
> No! It allows you to view PDF files in your browser.
> It doesn't make the PDF file a web page.
What is a "web page", in your view? Is it just
arbitrarily defined to be "an HTML file"?
> > That it is implemented as a plugin seems pretty
> > immaterial to me. Do you really thing that all the PDF
> > files out there will suddenly become 'web pages'
> > if and when someone writes a browser with native
> > PDF support?
>
> So if some company writes a plugin to display the source code of .exe
files,
> all .exe files currently available for downloading on the internet become
> web pages?
It would. However, what you describe is not
possible, and would not be useful were it possible.
> That is what you are say regarding PDF files.
Yes, it is. 'Web pages' are a user interface
element; it is possible to make even Word
documents into web pages, though only
MS is so silly as to actually do it. :D
[snip]
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From: LShaping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: PC power switch wont shut down Windows
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:41:45 GMT
Greg Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> But that really
>> does not matter anyway since Windows could unconditionally send a shut
>> down signal to the mainboard. Instead, Windows polls itself to see if
>> shutting down is OK. Bad idea. I am the one who tells my computer
>> what to do. If I wanted to mess with Windows logic, I would use the
>> Start - Shut Down path.
>>
>Yea, it's really stupid of Windows to take the time to notify all running
>programs that the user wants to shut down so they have the ability to
>clean themselves up and close down gracefully before power is removed.
>WHAT could Microsoft possibly have been thinking of?
Forget it. When I press the power switch, if necessary, Windows can
tell applications to cease and desist. Two seconds later, Windows is
to cut off access to the disk and shut the thing down. No questions
asked.
>
>That's the reason that the Start - Shutdown command exists. Any
>intelligent user uses it to shutdown their computer.
And gets snubbed by a not so intelligent monopoly operating system.
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