I have an Asus machine, it is now ~4.5 years old, I gave it an SSD upgrade and replaced the battery last summer (1.5 years ago) and the only thing really bothering me a bit these days is that I have only 4GB of RAM so with mild worry I ended up enabling swap on my SSD.
By the time the SSD goes I'll probably end up buying a new machine, my next machine should have at the very least 8 if not 16-32G of RAM, I expect this machine to last at least until coming summer and I may even take it all the way to 6 years. I also expect that people with better/less intense computer haibts will still be able to get excellent results out of it well after I retire it from my use (my mother used a P3-600 desktop machine from 2000-2012 thanks to linux and some upgrades, until it finally died). Regards, Eliyahu - אליהו 2016-12-27 21:01 GMT+02:00 Dan Yasny <dya...@gmail.com>: > The point here is that they sacrifice a lot of the think* series sturdiness > for the lack of weight and thickness. And you can't upgrade the thing, it's > all a single block you can't take apart. There's also a problem with later > kernels getting mces and panics on overheating because of a bug in the way > the kernel manages pstates - dynamic turbo mode or whatever intel call it. > The only way around I found is to disable pstates altogether. > > On Dec 27, 2016 1:32 PM, "Michael Shiloh" <michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Thanks Dan for your perspective. I'm actually going to teaching in Abu >> Dhabi next September so I'm really glad you brought that up. >> >> In general, I've been hearing good things about the current model (4th >> generation) which I believe came out earlier this year, so I assume >> your model is something prior. Is that correct? On the other hand, the >> current model has only been around for a year, so fewer opportunities >> to fail. >> >> Michael >> >> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Dan Yasny <dya...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I've been carrying an X1 around for a couple of years now. The battery >> > life >> > is great, Fedora support is great, weight and convenience is quite good, >> > except the keyboard is a bit on the weird side when it comes to the >> > function >> > keys and the missing insert key, but I've learned to live with that. >> > >> > The downside however is the reliability. In this time I've had the >> > screen >> > replaced, the keyboard replaced and the motherboard/cpu/ram/etc (it's >> > all a >> > single block) replaced. Each time it takes a week at the lab (I don't >> > have >> > the onsite warranty, and I am in Canada, so YMMV). So if you intend to >> > use >> > it somewhere where warranty isn't available, or if you intend to use it >> > longer than the warranty period - stay away. It's expensive enough to be >> > expected to last, but it's quite flimsy. >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Michael Shiloh >> > <michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks Eli, >> >> >> >> What kind of laptop do you use? >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 2:30 PM, E.S. Rosenberg >> >> <esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il> wrote: >> >> > Ever since getting my current laptop that weighs ~1.5kg I said I will >> >> > never get anything heavier again, it's something you can't return >> >> > from..... >> >> > >> >> > Thin and light devices (like the X1 and the T460S) tend to not be >> >> > very >> >> > upgradeable, it's a price you pay for thin & light... the SSD is most >> >> > likely upgradeable on any model you choose because so far soldered on >> >> > SSDs aren't all that common.... >> >> > >> >> > The videos on youtube clearly show that the T460S has at least one >> >> > SODIMM slot, the X1 does not seem to have it. >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > Eliyahu - אליהו >> >> > >> >> > 2016-12-26 23:37 GMT+02:00 Michael Shiloh >> >> > <michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com>: >> >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> >> >> >> I hope everyone is enjoying a very happy Chanukah. >> >> >> >> >> >> You might recall about a year ago I raised the question of a >> >> >> powerful >> >> >> laptop for Linux. I settled on a Thinkpad W541 and I am thrilled >> >> >> with >> >> >> it ... except for the weight. >> >> >> >> >> >> As I travel more and don't need the power of the W541 all the time, >> >> >> I'm thinking of a lightweight laptop for daily use. >> >> >> >> >> >> It's hard for me to consider anything but Thinkpads: I love the >> >> >> TrackPoint, the keyboard, the solid feel of the devices, etc. Given >> >> >> that, the top two contenders are the X1 Carbon and the T460S. >> >> >> >> >> >> The X1 is about 2.6 pounds and more expensive than the T460S which >> >> >> weighs about 3 pounds. >> >> >> >> >> >> Another big difference is whether the RAM and/or SSD can be upgraded >> >> >> on the X1 (I've seen equally strong claims that they can and can >> >> >> not). >> >> >> Some conversations insist they are soldered in, other say that >> >> >> perhaps >> >> >> the RAM can be upgraded by the user but is a non-standard form >> >> >> factor >> >> >> that can only be purchased from Lenovo. >> >> >> >> >> >> I think for the extra .4 pounds I'm willing to go with the better >> >> >> price of the T460S, especially if upgrading RAM and SSD is not >> >> >> possible on the X1 (I usually purchase from Lenovo with less storage >> >> >> and upgrade on my own). >> >> >> >> >> >> Any thoughts or advice? >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Linux-il mailing list >> >> >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> >> >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Linux-il mailing list >> >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > >> > _______________________________________________ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il