You really wouldn't want an instrument to be strongly resonant at a 
particular frequency. I think that they did at least some things to 
distribute the frequency response over a wide range. Something I picked up 
from Grant Tomlinson's class this summer: in theory, the braces under the 
top are perpendicular to the centerline and evenly spaced. That degree of 
symmetry would tend to favor the fundamental vibration modes of the top. In 
actual practice (from Grant's extensive study of historical lutes), the 
braces on historical instruments depart somewhat from both regular spacing 
and perpendicularity. From what I understand of acoustics, this should serve 
to spread out the frequency response of the top, and make it less responsive 
to any particular frequency and more uniform over the whole range of 
frequencies (the other physicists can chime in if they have a better 
understanding of this issue).

FWIW, I'm a little puzzled by the emphasis on the resonant frequency of the 
interior of the instrument. I rather suspect that such a resonance is at 
most a secondary factor, the primary one being the elastic properties of the 
top. If it was mainly about the geometry of the bowl, I doubt that luthiers 
would spend so much money on tonewood, nor would they go through the sort of 
elaborate tuning process that Bob Lundberg describes in his book.

Guy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Liefeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: Electronic tuners


> Hi Ed,
>
> My understanding is that the resonant frequency of a volume (such as a
> lute or guitar) is a function of both the volume, and the size of the 
> sound
> hole.  So yes, in theory, a luthier could adjust the frequency somewhat
> by varying the size of the rose... though all the frilly bits might make
> this
> a bit tough to do predictably.
>
>  From a practical perspective, I'd be interested in knowing if any 
> luthiers
> actually do this "tuning".
>
> Eric
>
> >James,
> >  This is amazing. I tried this on my Baroque guitar. I merely muted
> >the strings with my hand. It clearly resonates at d and f. This is
> >good, I like Dm. :-) On my Ren lutes, it wasn't as pronounced and
> >seemed to be a wider Q factor (width). My B lute resonates at A low
> >pitch. This is truly facinating.
> >
> >
> >
> >>The difference is amazing.  If you're not the sort to be convinced,
> >>as I am, by the physics, the sound will decide it--as it should.
> >>The resonance of the instrument will be greatly magnified, as will
> >>the volume, and even the clarity of the plucked notes and their
> >>overtones. I have done it with two 64cm lutes, one responded at E
> >>and the other at F.  They are much the richer for it--totally
> >>different instruments. They stand up very well to a voice they
> >>accompany, without being overwhelmed.  The harmonic synergy between
> >>the voice and lute (if it's you singing) is palpable.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I'm wondering if this is something easy or difficult for a luther to
> >control. Do they design instruments to resonate at certain pitches?
> >If there is too much resonance doesn't that give an uneven response?
> >Who wants to be trying to play something evenly and one note suddenly
> >jump out? I haven't noticed that problem on my B guitar, but it is
> >pretty much a tank of an instrument anyway.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 


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