Yes, they do!  It is breathtaking.  I did take some time looking at the 
Strad mandolin, as well as the Strad guitar, Sellas guitars, Voboam guitar, 
etc, etc.

Incredible.

ed

At 09:07 AM 2/6/2008 -0500, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
>Marvelous!  Thanks for spinning your yarn, Ed.  They also hold the 1680 
>"Cutler-Challen" mandolino by Stradivari and a number of other interesting 
>early mandolins.
><http://www.usd.edu/smm/PluckedStrings/Mandolins/StradMandolin/StradMandolin.html>
>
>At 08:11 AM 2/6/2008, Edward Martin wrote:
>>I sent this to the baroque list yesterday, but I re-thought this, and I am
>>also sending it to the general lute list (sorry if it offends anyone).
>>
>>ed
>>
>>Dear ones,
>>
>>I have an interesting story.
>>
>>Dan Larson and I just returned from the National Museum of Music, in South
>>Dakota.  It was an absolutely fantastic experience.  They have many, many
>>lutes by Harton, Diefenbrouchar, Sellas, Edlinger.  They also have guitars
>>by Stradivarius, Sellas and Voboam.  Many violins by Stradivarius, Ganeri,
>>Amati, etc.  It was unbelievable.
>>
>>The museum let us have full access to the Edlingers!  We examined them for
>>about 10 hours, and I got to hold them in the playing position, etc.  They
>>have been examined in the 1970's by Lundberg and others.  One is 76 cm
>>mensur, the other is 81 or 82 cm, and they were perhaps originally by
>>Tieffenbrucker, or perhaps a Bolognese maker.  Later, they were converted
>>to 13 course baroque lutes by Thomas Edlinger;  the longer instrument in
>>1724, the shorter one in 1728. The 76 cm is flat back in 11 ribs of bird's
>>eye maple, the 82 cm is multi ribbed yew.
>>
>>What really startled me was the 76 cm lute.  It is documented that these
>>lutes had been in a Czeck castle for hundreds of years.  It appeared to me
>>that 2, or 3 different players used this lute.  It showed heavy usage, so
>>it was more than likely played at a professional level.  One player played
>>near the bridge, due to smudge & dirt marks from the fingers, as well as
>>the thumb.  These marks were wide, and seemingly from finger marks.  One
>>player played close to the rose , and used a long nail, as there are
>>multiple thin scrape marks (perhaps hundreds of these marks), from a long
>>right hand nail.  That player even played in front of the rose, towards the
>>neck, on all the diapason courses! It tells me that on this particular
>>instrument, there were more than one player using very different
>>techniques.  As well, they played a technique with the thumb pointed
>>towards the rose, as the old paintings show, but _NOT_ by the bridge.
>>
>>The longer lute in yew showed patterns and evidence of it being played very
>>close to the bridge.  The little area at the treble end of the bridge was
>>worn down from overuse of the pinky being planted there.
>>
>>It seems that these lutes, although in possession by the same family in the
>>same castle, are similar in that they are both Edlinger conversions to 13
>>course baroque lutes with bass riders.  They do appear to have had
>>dissimilar techniques and player positions, as evidenced by the wear on the
>>sound boards, suggesting that the same player did not play the 2
>>instruments, and the shorter one had at least 2 different players.
>>
>>All in all, in was a humbling experience, to examine these masterpieces, so
>>close up, and to hold them in playing position.  The marks I mentioned on
>>the shorter instrument do not show up well on photography, but are very
>>open & obvious to the naked eye.
>>
>>ed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Edward Martin
>>2817 East 2nd Street
>>Duluth, Minnesota  55812
>>e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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