Having taken these keyboard classes, and speaking as someone with a
   doctoral degree in historical plucked instruments, (ya know, lute,
   theorbo, baroque guitar and all that jazz) I can say that the
   considerable keyboard requirements were practically useless in helping
   with things like continuo realization or improvisation on plucked
   instruments. The media are just too different. I think the pedagogical
   goal in requiring piano for all majors is primarily so that
   non-harmonic (i.e. single-line) instrumentalists and singers will have
   some practical exposure to harmony. For lutenists or guitarists, this
   is less important, since we are of course already a harmonic
   instrument.
   Historically, pluckers avoided the type of highly abstracted
   contrapuntal approach to keyboard musicianship, which places a heavy
   emphasis on strict part writing in a predetermined number of voices,
   that is so prevalent in piano classes today. Perhaps because
   maintaining a totally strict contrapuntal conceit is so technically
   difficult on plucked instruments, lute/theorbo/guitar players were
   compelled to be far more inventive in their theoretical thinking.
   Surviving tabs show that pluckers understood and used the fundamental
   bass theory many decades before Rameau popularized it. This certainly
   opens the door for more inventive, satisfying - and audible!!! -
   continuo playing for us today. (I wrote an article about this which
   hopefully will come out soon in the LSA Quarterly when they get around
   to publishing it.)

   Chris
   Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
   Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
   www.christopherwilke.com
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   From: David Tayler <vidan...@sbcglobal.net>
   To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 7:57 PM
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
     I think this is an interesting question, and I will risk posting an
     honest answer. The answer depends on who is "The General Public". I
     divide the groups as: the 200 countries of YouTube distribution,
     Academics, other lute players, people in the Early Music scene, and
     modern musicians, as these are the groups frequently mentioned here.
     First off, however, I must note that at a good conservatory or
   college
     offering a real music major, you are expected to play the piano, read
     figured bass and pass a score reading exam using multiple staves of
   an
     orchestra work and transposing clefs.
     I mention this because of the puzzling stories about people who can
     play the keyboard and transpose and so on. That is an entry level
     skill, and a requirement. I had to take two years of piano to pass
   the
     exam, along with all the other students, and that was to get just a
     basic BA in music. Hours of piano lab, hours of practice, and
   everyone
     had to do it, no exceptions. I had to take an even harder exam to be
     admitted for the MA, which included a test in Fugue writing and
     counterpoint. Basic training, basic training for just the BA.
   However,
     in many European systems, the requirements are more strict.
     So although I think it is cool that there are these stories, I think
     the very fact that we tell these stories sends the message to the
     General Public that, unfortunately, we didn't finish basic training.
     And what kind of a message is that? Most professional musicians on
   the
     violin, cello, piano, harpsichord, and so on, had to work to get
   these
     skills just to get into the Conservatory. They expect everyone to do
     these things fluently. This explains some of the "attitude" from
   modern
     players. Rightly or wrongly, they look at the basic training. And
   they
     had teachers who said, in a unified voice "no shortcuts."
     And that in no way means that the people in the lute stories are not
     good musicians, because they often are, but think for a moment if you
     played in any original, historical French baroque opera what you
   would
     have to do. You would have to read multiple clefs, including double
     figured (figures on both sides of the staff) baritone clef with the F
     on the middle line, and short score the other parts, none of which
   line
     up with anything familiar.
     Way harder than playing the piano. Most harpsichordists and organists
     who play opera can do this, most lute players cannot do this. Yes, it
     is harder on the lute. But the musical skills are the same and no
     harder.
     As far as the General Population of the Planet, the vast majority
   have
     no idea what a lute is, and lute players would be regarded as an
     historical oddity from movies and TV shows, e.g., cameo appearances
   of
     "Game of Thrones" or "House."  Followers of Sting would have a very
     hazy idea that it is the funny looking instrument from Sting's foray
     into Early Music, but not much more. Certainly the YouTube boom has
     marginally improved awareness, however, most of the YouTube videos
   are
     not intended to be recordings in the sense of a produced recording.
     There's no one playing the lute on YouTube who can even remotely
     approach the chops of say for example the 14 year old girl who plays
     the Vivaldi Four Seasons on the guitar. The GPOTP may not know much,
     but they know raw talent.
     [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGfO2Dgc9Y
     As far as other lute players, lute players are highly regarded. This
     means we live in a bubble.
     As far as other Early Music musicians, sadly, but undeniably, lute
     players are regarded as the worst musicians. Bottom of the Barrel.
   That
     is, there is no other instrument that has a lower reputation, with
   the
     possible exception of the Krummhorn. The reason for this is
     complicated, but basically has to do with anecdotal stories that
     circulate about lute players in ensembles, basic sight reading,
   rhythm,
     score reading, ensemble skills and so on. The situation has changed
     slightly in the last few years, as more continuo players enter the
     pool. However, recorder players, cornetto, harpsichord, organ, oboe
   and
     viol players nowadays have advanced training, especially in notation
     and ornamentation, but also in ensemble playing and rhythmic
   training,
     that lute players just don't have. Their bar is higher.
     Other Early Music musicians make constant and disparaging jokes about
     the quality of the lute YouTube videos. They circulate them in groups
     as joke emails, especially where two continuo players are playing the
     same piece but playing different chords. Like major and minor at the
     same time. It is one of the most common comments I hear in the pub
     after an orchestra rehearsal. "Did you see this. OMG how could they
   not
     know?" What they are saying is not only did they play the mistake,
   but
     they are unaware that a mistake has been played. Of course, these
   same
     commentators are not making their own solo videos, but still, it is a
     litany.
     I think the videos are a great thing, and of course many of them are
     meant to be sharing, rather than comparing, but there is a PR
   downside.
     As far as modern players, when I play with a modern orchestra like
   the,
     the reception is normally warm and inviting. I don't get the reaction
   I
     got thirty years ago. Orchestra players often have worked with
     crossover conductors who are active in both worlds.
     As far as academia, most people in a university environment will have
     some idea of what a lute is, but not much more than "Game of
   Thrones".
     Lute players are smart, talented people. There's no reason that they
     can't have the same skill sets as the top musicians in the world,
   just
     as they did in the renaissance.
     dt
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