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Eugene -----Original Message----- From: Braig, Eugene Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 7:39 PM To: Lutelist Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Mandolino versus Mandola I'm also quite excited to see this article, Davide, but back issues don't appear to be available for sale yet, and my university doesn't [pay a fee to periodically receive editions of] the British journal. Some sources attest to the (largely) interchangeable nature of the terms, and some attest to "mandola" referring to generally larger instruments (e.g., in both cases, Herre, Susanne. 2012. The mandolin in relation to the lute: a historical survey. Lute News 104:9–23. In the latter case, Morey, Stephen. 1993. Mandolins of the 18th Century. Editrice Turris, Cremona. Etc.). I've seen Orlandi write in at least one place (I don't recall which, but can look for the reference if you're really curious) that "mandola" may have simply referred to the addition of the sixth course (i.e., g) as it was becoming more common following a five-course-dominated tradition. That may be implied by the Dalla Casa manuscript which gives a "mandolino" tuning in five courses (i.e., b, e', a', d'', g'') and several works for "mandolino" in that range, but that also features a "Suonata con Grave" for "mandola" with the melody line descending below. Etc. . . . But you've already touched on all ! those possibilities, and I suspect from the same sources that I cite here (as well as a couple others), Alain. However, I don't want to weigh too heavily upon this topic until I've seen what Davide has recently published. Best, Eugene -----Original Message----- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Veylit Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 1:17 PM To: Davide Rebuffa Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mandolino versus Mandola Thank you Davide, I have read this one: "A Partita by Filippo Sauli, theorbo and mandolin player to the Habsburgs Courtin Wien" with much interest and I am sure your article in Lute news would be answering some of my questions. I am not sure however that I will be able to get a copy in the near future. On 12/03/2017 09:41 AM, Davide Rebuffa wrote: > Dear Alain, > perhaps it may help you reading my article (The mandolino in the 17th and > 18th centuries), recently published by the Lute Society: LUTE NEWS Number 123 > - October 2017. > > Best wishes, > Davide > > > > > > > > > >> Il giorno 03 dic 2017, alle ore 17:38, Alain Veylit >> <al...@musickshandmade.com> ha scritto: >> >> Does anyone know what exact differences existed between the mandolino and >> the mandola in the 18th century? Were the two terms really interchangeable? >> Was the mandola just a mandolino with one added bass course? Did they share >> a common tuning and playing technique? >> From what I gather from searching the WEB, the answer to those questions >> would be yes, but I am still puzzled and would like to have the opinion of >> mandolino/mandola players and instrument makers if at all possible. And >> maybe also linguists: why two words? >> Thanks in advance, >> Alain >> PS: I have read James Tyler's article on the mandolino in Early Music, 1981, >> but don't have a copy of his book "The early mandolin". >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > --
