On 05/16/2016 05:18 PM, racoon wrote:
> On 16.05.2016 22:52, racoon wrote:
>> On 16.05.2016 22:22, Richard Heck wrote:
>>> On 05/15/2016 05:20 AM, racoon wrote:
>>>> On 15.05.2016 03:41, Richard Heck wrote:
>>>>> On 05/14/2016 05:46 PM, racoon wrote:
>>>>>> On 14.05.2016 08:29, racoon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 14.05.2016 06:21, Richard Heck wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 05/13/2016 03:38 PM, racoon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The LyX manual on customization has not much explanation. I
>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>> create a simple module that inserts a label with
>>>>>>>>> "footnotemark" and
>>>>>>>>> the command \footnotemark in the source.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The LyxType sounds like the right thing to use. But
>>>>>>>>> unfortunately, I
>>>>>>>>> have no idea where I can find this kind of inset. The
>>>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>>>> states "Among other things, [LyXType] determines on which menu
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> inset will appear." (46, LyX 2.2) But it does not state where the
>>>>>>>>> inset will appear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This does sound like a job for a Flex inset. Can you explain in
>>>>>>>> detail
>>>>>>>> what you want to accomplish, in terms of LaTeX? Is there preamble
>>>>>>>> code?
>>>>>>>> What do you want to appear where this new inset would appear?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd suggest you look at endnotes.module for an example you
>>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>>> able to adapt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for LyXType, the only genuine options here are CharStyle and
>>>>>>>> Custom.
>>>>>>>> The former is intended, as it says, for character styles, such as
>>>>>>>> noun
>>>>>>>> and small caps. They appear under Edit> TextStyle. The latter is
>>>>>>>> intended for custom insets such as endnote. They appear under
>>>>>>>> Insert>
>>>>>>>> Custom Insets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, I see. Then charstyle is seems not to be the right thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to implement http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9998 via a
>>>>>>> module.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the current code inserted below. Problems at the moment:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the Footnotemark:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - It should contain no arguments.
>>>>>>> - It should also be possible to insert it in math mode.
>>>>>>> - Can it count up the standard footnote counter that is shown on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> footnote in the editor?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #\DeclareLyXModule{Footnote}
>>>>>>> #DescriptionBegin
>>>>>>> #Adds the footnotemark and footnotetext command
>>>>>>> #DescriptionEnd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Format 59
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> InsetLayout Flex:Footnotetext
>>>>>>>   LyXType         custom
>>>>>>>   LatexName       footnotetext
>>>>>>>   LatexType       command
>>>>>>>   Decoration      classic
>>>>>>>   Font
>>>>>>>     Size Small
>>>>>>>   EndFont
>>>>>>>   MultiPar        true
>>>>>>>   LabelString     fntext
>>>>>>> End
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> InsetLayout Flex:Footnotemark
>>>>>>>   LyXType        custom
>>>>>>>   LatexName        footnotemark
>>>>>>>   LatexType        command
>>>>>>>   Decoration    classic
>>>>>>>   Font
>>>>>>>     Size Small
>>>>>>>   EndFont
>>>>>>>   LabelString     fnmark
>>>>>>> End
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, maybe I found my answer: it is not possible for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lyx-devel.lyx.narkive.com/i8i3itVw/lyx-construct-for-latex-commands-having-no-arguments
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the part about "no arguments" means we're dealing with a
>>>>> command-type inset, not a collapsable inset, and there are no custom
>>>>> versions of the former.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. Well, I tried to make a virtue out of it and looked up the
>>>> \footnotemark command and it can actually has an optional argument.
>>>>
>>>> There are two more obstacles:
>>>>
>>>> 1. \footnotetext actually also takes an optional argument. So far I
>>>> have implemented it with only with the required argument. Is it
>>>> possible to add an optional argument to it?
>>>
>>> Yes. See the discussion of the Argument tag in section 5.3.6 of the
>>> Customization manual. You only need to declare the optional argument, I
>>> believe. Have a look at some of the InsetLayout definitions is
>>> beamer.layout. Most of these have optional arguments.
>>>
>>>> 2. a minor one: \footnotemark receives only an optional argument. Is
>>>> it possible to give only an optional argument to a command, i.e. to
>>>> give it directly to [] rather than {} in the latex command? Right now
>>>> I just make a new command that gives it's required argument to
>>>> footnotemark as an optional argument. It's a bit indirect.
>>>
>>> Yes, I see. I don't think we have the ability to output the "main"
>>> argument with customized delimiters. You can ADD delimiters with the
>>> LeftDelim and RightDelim tags, but these just seem to appear inside the
>>> usual brackets. I suspect this is a bug, actually. With other arguments
>>> you can specify the delimitersl, and they override the default.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks. The hint at the beamer.layout was useful. (Somehow I thought
>> that Argument 1 must be the argument that is always present but it is
>> actually the first "additional" argument it seems.)
>>
>> Actually, the \footnotemark command works in math mode as well. But I
>> guess there is no chance of using my module inset in math mode, right?
>
> A couple more things that would be nice:
>
> - the footnotetext was added to the list of footnotes.

This would definitely take some work.

> - one could refer to the standard names of other insets, like the
> LabelString of the standard footnotes. For example, I have renamed the
> standard "foot x" to "fn x". So I would like to have a reference to
> that name ("foot" or "fn") so that others can have whatever they like
> and it will automatically be used.

You want something like:
    LabelString [[LabelString:Foot]]
where the thing in brackets picks up the other one's name?

Richard

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