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David, funny you should mention Joe's great article, because it brings us full circle to the critique of Lih with which I started this thread. Corr describes the concrete reasons why Lenin thought moves toward socialism were possible (which the "Old Bolsheviks" were denying). Such reasons included: "Railways, postal and telegraph communications had contributed to establishing the infrastructure necessary to accomplish the task of socialising the basic structure of the economy." I.e., the logistics of the day. As I've mentioned previously, Lenin in this period was appropriately manic about accounting, control and cooperation. All of which of course are immensely more possible with today's logistics. _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com