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Agreed totally, Andrew. Orwell is a very mixed figure. But Homage to Catalonia does have its moment of seeing that the spontaneous right thing to do is to join the revolution. I like Raymond Williams' book on Orwell 2nd edition btw especially re Orwell's attitude towards the poor and the character called "Orwell" that he created in his work comradely Gary On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:29 AM, Andrew Stewart via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > Yeah but Orwell didn't give a damn about the colonial question. His > activities after the events in Spain were boot-licking exercises in the > service of the British Empire. When he named names for the intelligence > services he explicitly said that Paul Robeson and Henry Wallace were > "anti-white", a pretty obvious premonition of the notion of "reverse > racism". Whether the Popular Front period had more losses than gains for > the Communist parties worldwide is a debate that has to be totally removed > from Orwell's explicitly racist, sexist, homophobic, and imperialist > criticism of it that portrays itself as a left critique. It's not an > accident that the Cold War liberal Lionel Trilling wrote an introduction to > the book in 1952. > > ===== > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 16:58:17 +1000 > From: Gary MacLennan <gary.maclenn...@gmail.com> > To: Gregory Adler <gregadler...@gmail.com>, Activists and scholars in > Marxist tradition <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > Subject: Re: [Marxism] Orwell-bad history? > Message-ID: > <CACTb6=7WKGgAbrYPc2Y0tFfr3RDfC+cJ5gsL0SXBqLsN2tg1zw@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Agreed Gregory. I read a piece by Chomsky long ago which made the point > that the suppression of the revolutionary impulse was the problem. The > Republican government for example failed to declare an end to colonialism > and thus gifted Franco with Moorish troops. > > comradely > > Gary > > On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Gregory Adler via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > > > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > > ***************************************************************** > > > > This is a succinct view of the anti-Orwell position on the Civil War and > > the suppression of the revolutionary forces. Although I am far less > > attracted overall to Orwell than some on this list in this matter I think > > he was on the side of the angels. > > > > https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/may/06/george- > > orwell-homage-to-catalonia-account-spanish-civil-war-wrong > > _________________________________________________________ > > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gary. > > maclennan1%40gmail.com > > > > -- > Best regards, > > Andrew Stewart > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gary. > maclennan1%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
