Certainly not Klo,

But it seems whether we like it or not, the subject has been thrust upon us
again and the proof of the pudding is in the eating. With the introduction
of the topic again, based on the "second option" of course, this time, we
shall see who is introducing who. Let us taste it and we shall see who is
who and what the real objectives of this discussion are. I could be
completely wrong in my suspicions, I hope so.

fraternally Alan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> kloMcKinsey
> Sent: Thursday, 24 August 2000 09:23
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [MLL] Trotsky year: on Stalinism
>
>
> Alan Dover wrote:
> >
> > Comrades,
>
> (snip)
>
>  So I say, bring on your discussion once again for
> > the thousanth time so that we may show for the thousanth time
> in open debate
> > that Trotskyism does not offer a practical solution to the
> proletariat for
> > the achievement of socialism. The universality of the two opposites in
> > struggle here is *revolutionary socialism* while their particularity is
> > *Trotskyism* on the one hand and *Marxism-Leninism* on the
> other. The first
> > observation is that Trotskyism is not Marxism-Leninism but is
> diametrically
> > opposed to it. Each purports its revolutionary road to
> socialism and each
> > has a class basis.
> >
> > fraternally Alan.
>
> Alan.
>
> Am I reading you correctly?  Are you inviting back onto this list for
> purposes of debate all those Trot spokespersons who have been expelled
> for what they said?
>
> Fraternally,
>
> Klo
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Javad Eskandarpour
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 23 August 2000 12:16
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [MLL] Trotsky year: on Stalinism
> > >
> > >
> > > Comrade Klo,
> > >
> > > In ideological struggle against the ideologues of Imperialism of its
> > > offshoots, like Trotskites and others, we must analyse the
> works of their
> > > best representatives, not of their worst ones. Thus, I am willing
> > > to analyse
> > > the works of Trotsky, and of his few well-known followers. I am
> > > not willing
> > > to discuss just anybody who wants to slander Marxism-Leninism
> without even
> > > understanding either Marxism-Leninism or Trotskyism.
> > >
> > > Javad
> > >
> >
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