Hello Vasi. Ha, ok, I see, indeed there was problem with the symlinks. It is fixed in last commit.
Screeshots: https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/3c84c256-6c85-4c59-8ea8-42750d11d929 https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/067c81f0-0625-4f27-93ff-d5ff9c728290 For the problem with file-permission of the backup file, strange indeed. Did you check if it does the same when saving the files of the project? I will jump into this asap. Fre;D ________________________________ De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> Envoyé : mardi 6 juin 2023 11:38 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? Oops, sent themail with image attached and now is held on moderation ... now, the message again, with link to my google driver for the image attachement... Message was: In my home folder, I have a symlink to /usr/local (where gcc-none-eabi is installed) named gcc-arm. This symlink does not appear in the list of folders of my combobox... image attached. In image, the Midnight Commander shows the symlink gcc-arm, and in msegui app does not appear, although, if full path is specified, things are working. https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Ko1ZeRvK6FGc0NPWIDdDHfP7iLU17EL/view?usp=drive_link On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 10:50 AM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> wrote: In my home folder, I have a symlink to /usr/local (where gcc-none-eabi is installed) named gcc-arm. This symlink does not appear in the list of folders of my combobox... image attached. In image, the Midnight Commander shows the symlink gcc-arm, and in msegui app does not appear, although, if full path is specified, things are working. On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 11:34 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello Vasi. > Ok, really quick, the symlinks to folders do not appear in the list of > comboboxes that show lists of folders Hum, I dont catch something because here the file-listbox works, with icons for all folders. https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/168a4814-21c2-46fe-b257-4f7f1dceaf98 > And once you create a new folder the app can't find it to refresh its list of > folders... - Re-hum also this one works here. But sure I miss something once again. Anyway in last commit was defined class_bridge to use classes.pas from fpc instead of mclasses.pas. Like needed for compiling BGRABimap application. Maybe it will help. > - DragonFlyBSD (preffered as a file and database server but with great > performance also in graphics) > - NetBSD (used on old and odd equipment but also in Universities - one of my > favorite along DragonFlyBSD). OK, sold, I will see if I can find time*energy for those too. ;-) Many thanks Vasi for all those clear explanation. Fre;D ________________________________ De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> Envoyé : lundi 5 juin 2023 19:59 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? Look at BSD as a last standing fortress, if Linux will fall to the Corporations... And by that I mean completely controlled by them. Or look at BSD like investing in your retirement plan. And I'm done :) On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 8:41 PM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Now, about the differences between FreeBSD and OpenBSD. The first thing that jumps at you is the difference in performance which is in FreeBSD's favor. FreeBSD has a better support for SMP than OpenBSD. But it is more vulnerable in terms of security. There is HardenedBSD which is a port of FreeBSD but with hardened kernel. On top of HardenedBSD, is built a great firewall named pfSense (these three are binary compatible) - excellent, in my opinion. Another early port of FreeBSD happened to be DragonFlyBSD, which is now his worthy rival, both in terms of SMP and file system. DragonFlyBSD has a file system as secure as Ext4 or XFS but with features similar to ZFS and its target is to make ZFS obsolete. Is no longer binary compatible with FreeBSD But back to OpenBSD, it is the most secure operating system in the world, with all defaults oriented to security. I think from their developers we have OpenSSH... They are pioneering in security stuff. And I think it evolved from NetBSD which NetBSD is known for its amazing portability... But they are no longer binary compatible. To sum, There are 4 main BSD operating systems: - FreeBSD (with derivatives as HardenedBSD and pfSense and NomadBSD; It is considered good at everything, better than all, but bloated, insecure) - DragonFlyBSD (preffered as a file and database server but with great performance also in graphics) - OpenBSD (also firewall oriented but preferred by many as a secure workstation) - NetBSD (used on old and odd equipment but also in Universities - one of my favorite along DragonFlyBSD). With their own specific but not binary compatibility between them. There are more, but these are the main reference. When you develop a Linux app and say that it is crossplatform, and works on BSD, you refer to the fact that your app can compile and run on all these four BSDs. All have fpc ported to them, thanks to the fpc team.... Lazarus compiles also ok. Of course, there is more to say for each of them, but I'm not the qualified person to do that... Hopefully, I did not confuse you even more... :P On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 8:06 PM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Ok, really quick, the symlinks to folders do not appear in the list of comboboxes that show lists of folders - from memory. I am now on another computer... And once you create a new folder the app can't find it to refresh its list of folders... - this one I did not studied it in depth... It will see it after a restart but I will describe it better with another occasion... It is about a project that I started under Linux and there works ok. It uses the components from the palette, nothing new created. I will try to make a demo, and create a repository for you but when time permits. On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 5:47 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Re hello Vasi. Because the only way I have (for the moment) to download files is via "git clone", I can create a new github project with some test applications. So you are welcome to show me some test aplications that have problems and I will add it. A other way should be that you show me some problem-demos from https://github.com/mse-org/mseuniverse I can do a "git clone" of it and test the applications with problems. But cool, there is no hurry and summer is coming. 😉 Fre;D ________________________________ De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> Envoyé : lundi 5 juin 2023 15:00 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? Hi Fred, There are a few more problems regarding folders, but I won't tell you until you have some more time for this, is not an emergency, I'm also working on other projects... Plus, a message, about an access violation that does not visibly affect the functionality of mseide... On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 9:08 PM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thank you Fred, I will check it this night! On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 9:06 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello Vasi and everybody. OK done. All seems fixed, graphic, directory and file access, error at closing. Tested also memory leak for mseide and ideU: 0 memory leak. (with last commit). Ready to be tested! It was a nice battle. Fre;D ________________________________ De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> Envoyé : dimanche 4 juin 2023 16:24 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? Wow! Amazing job man! Ha ha! Congratulations! You checked one more operating system for msegui and ideU! On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 5:49 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello Vasi. OK the fully workable solution found! readdir_r() is in the pocked (ok last commit ). https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/a8180cc9-e65f-4a05-a2c1-e9de4b3e160a https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/813bd25c-5f93-4130-8bb2-9249f19e89da Yep! Fre;D ________________________________ De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> Envoyé : samedi 3 juin 2023 16:56 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? I intend to use that as well... one day we might find a fully workable solution... On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 2:40 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Re-hello Vasi. ideU compiles and works ok. https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/1d68e8bb-1fa0-40e2-9849-52fc534bda16 Of course the file-dialog does not work but if you write the complete path of a project, it loads and you can use the ide. So there is only that readdir_r() method that makes shadow, I hope that some light will appear... Fre;D ________________________________ De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> Envoyé : vendredi 2 juin 2023 23:58 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? Thank you Fred, your effort is greatly appreciated! I am happy with what you did already! Thank you again! On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 11:49 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello Vasi. I did spent some white night and black afternoon but I am blocked with one method that does not work as expected. It is function "sys_readdirstream(var stream: dirstreamty; var info: fileinfoty): boolean" in /kernel/linux/msesysintf.pas. With Linux and FreeBSD, after the function "readdir64_r(pdir(d.dir),@dirent,@po1) = 0" the dirent.d_name is correct but there is nothing with OpenBSD. Note that with OpenBSD it is "readdir_r" method that is used from libc and the "dirent" record was adapted like in OpenBSD manual. So, to resume, all is working apart for components that use "sys_readdirstream()" method, for example the filedialog component. I did try also with last fpc 3.3.1 compiled from trunk, without better result. I have to admit that, sadly, I did not find the solution. Fre;D ;-( ________________________________ De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> Envoyé : jeudi 1 juin 2023 11:48 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? I will test it in around one hour, and keep you posted. On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 3:40 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Re-..._re hello Vasi. Yep, on OpenBSD, mseide compiles, links and ... run! Last commit should do the trick. Here sceenshot ( the last for tonight ): https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/3ff71e23-396a-472a-a34e-083a37284cab Fre;D De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> Envoyé : mercredi 31 mai 2023 19:50 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? * meant to say /etc as destination for the doas.conf file... On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:48 PM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> wrote: There is no binary compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD... none of the *BSDs are compatible. Lazarus gets compiled from sources using the fpc from OpenBSD repos... To get root access, your user must be member of wheel and control groups. Instead of sudo, you use doas. To activate doas, you have to create a doas.conf in /et with the following content (a single line): permit persist :wheel I doubt you will solve it, it is too much work. Right now, I am ok with Lazarus. Thank you Fred, is not an emergency. OpenBSD as an workstation is extremely restrictive and kinda slow compared to even FreeBSD, not talking about linux. THank you again but I will advise not to pursue it further. The most annoying thing for me is that I am unable to run apps compiled in clang that uses GLFW library... lots of crashes... raylib and nanovg graphic libraries that uses GL are a no-no :( I had more success in FreeBSD and NetBSD overall... On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:30 PM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Fred, fpc is included in OpenBSD repository... you look for it with pkg_info -Q fpc and install it with pkg_add fpc but you have to install also the other units... But I think sourceforge has packages for 3.2.2 for OpenBSD? On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 7:55 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Re-re hello Vasi. Do you know from where to download a fpc OpenBSD release? I only found fpc install release for FreeBSD (or maybe the release of fpc FreeBSD works for OpenBSD) ? Thanks. ________________________________ De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> Envoyé : mercredi 31 mai 2023 10:36 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? Ok, I tried mseide first, it compiles msegui ok but fails at linking... It says there are undefined references to "__error" and "iconv" in msecwstring.pas, mselibc.pas and msesysintf1.pas Probably OpenBSD not a valid target? On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:42 AM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Actually, I will try to figure it from your compilation command of uide from your repository, I'll keep you posted... On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:23 AM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thank you Fred, my problem with mseide-msegui is as follows: I run OpenBSD 7.3 on one of my laptops (where is fpc 3.2.2 but no Lazarus) and I would like to have a makefile or a script that assures the compilation of the msegui units, required to create mseide executable. Once done, probably I will be able to compile also your ide... Of course, I will download your ide for the other operating systems if is portable as you say - I can't say no to that! Thank you again! On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 6:23 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Thanks Vasi vasi! By the way there is a new release of ideU: https://github.com/fredvs/ideU/releases/ In the assets there are also the "PacPas" releases that include all needed: fpc compiler, gdb debugger, source of msegui, fpgui and bgrabitmap. No need to config anything, just download the release, unzip it and use it. You may also install it on a usb stick and compile your project using ideU from the usb stick, out-of-the-box. Without, of course, any conflict with already other fpc installed. Fre;D ________________________________ De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> Envoyé : mardi 30 mai 2023 12:50 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? Thank you Fred, much appreciated! On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 12:37 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello Vasi vasi and everybody! OK, new very stable release: https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/releases/tag/5.8.0 Enjoy! Fre;D ________________________________ De : vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com<mailto:funl...@gmail.com>> Envoyé : lundi 29 mai 2023 12:48 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui <mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>> Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? Yes, always good to have the fixed version! Thank you! On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 10:24 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello everybody. Thanks to Sieghard, Jonas and LagProgramming there was many fixes from last release. What do you think to do a new release 5.8.0 with all the last fixes? 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