Thank you Fred, can't wait to test it in my project! On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 7:50 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Vasi. > > In last commit, attributes of files are fixed when using copyfile(). > And so the backup files too. > > 🙂 > > Fre;D > ------------------------------ > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* mardi 6 juin 2023 12:29 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > Another thing... mseide editor saves a backup for the current file you > edit, right? But messes up the attributes of the file (if not intended): > It sets the Owner's access to none, the Group's access to none and the > Others' access to none *but* sets the executable attribute for Others. > > Screenshots are here: > https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qISDiI373EwRxTrx4a51dSMVGGSqw_qi?usp=drive_link > > for both subjects, in case the previous message (with the symlink to > folder missing from *combobox* folder list) is held for moderation... > > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 11:34 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello Vasi. > > > Ok, really quick, the symlinks to folders do not appear in the list of > comboboxes that show lists of folders > Hum, I dont catch something because here the file-listbox works, with > icons for all folders. > > https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/168a4814-21c2-46fe-b257-4f7f1dceaf98 > > > And once you create a new folder the app can't find it to refresh its > list of folders... - > Re-hum also this one works here. But sure I miss something once again. > Anyway in last commit was defined class_bridge to use classes.pas from fpc > instead of mclasses.pas. > Like needed for compiling BGRABimap application. Maybe it will help. > > > - DragonFlyBSD (preffered as a file and database server but with great > performance also in graphics) > > - NetBSD (used on old and odd equipment but also in Universities - one > of my favorite along DragonFlyBSD). > > OK, sold, I will see if I can find time*energy for those too. ;-) > > Many thanks Vasi for all those clear explanation. > > Fre;D > > > ------------------------------ > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* lundi 5 juin 2023 19:59 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > Look at BSD as a last standing fortress, if Linux will fall to the > Corporations... And by that I mean completely controlled by them. Or look > at BSD like investing in your retirement plan. And I'm done :) > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 8:41 PM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Now, about the differences between FreeBSD and OpenBSD. The first thing > that jumps at you is the difference in performance which is in FreeBSD's > favor. FreeBSD has a better support for SMP than OpenBSD. But it is more > vulnerable in terms of security. There is HardenedBSD which is a port of > FreeBSD but with hardened kernel. On top of HardenedBSD, is built a great > firewall named pfSense (these three are binary compatible) - excellent, in > my opinion. Another early port of FreeBSD happened to be DragonFlyBSD, > which is now his worthy rival, both in terms of SMP and file system. > DragonFlyBSD has a file system as secure as Ext4 or XFS but with features > similar to ZFS and its target is to make ZFS obsolete. Is no longer binary > compatible with FreeBSD > > But back to OpenBSD, it is the most secure operating system in the world, > with all defaults oriented to security. I think from their developers we > have OpenSSH... They are pioneering in security stuff. And I think it > evolved from NetBSD which NetBSD is known for its amazing portability... > But they are no longer binary compatible. > > To sum, There are 4 main BSD operating systems: > - *FreeBSD *(with derivatives as HardenedBSD and pfSense and NomadBSD; It > is considered good at everything, better than all, but bloated, insecure) > - *DragonFlyBSD* (preffered as a file and database server but with great > performance also in graphics) > - *OpenBSD* (also firewall oriented but preferred by many as a secure > workstation) > - *NetBSD* (used on old and odd equipment but also in Universities - one > of my favorite along DragonFlyBSD). > > With their own specific but not binary compatibility between them. There > are more, but these are the main reference. > > When you develop a Linux app and say that it is crossplatform, and works > on BSD, you refer to the fact that your app can compile and run on all > these four BSDs. All have fpc ported to them, thanks to the fpc team.... > Lazarus compiles also ok. > > Of course, there is more to say for each of them, but I'm not the > qualified person to do that... > Hopefully, I did not confuse you even more... :P > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 8:06 PM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ok, really quick, the symlinks to folders do not appear in the list of > comboboxes that show lists of folders - from memory. I am now on another > computer... > > And once you create a new folder the app can't find it to refresh its list > of folders... - this one I did not studied it in depth... It will see it > after a restart but I will describe it better with another occasion... > > It is about a project that I started under Linux and there works ok. It > uses the components from the palette, nothing new created. I will try to > make a demo, and create a repository for you but when time permits. > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 5:47 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Re hello Vasi. > > Because the only way I have (for the moment) to download files is via "git > clone", I can create a new github project with some test applications. > So you are welcome to show me some test aplications that have problems and > I will add it. > > A other way should be that you show me some problem-demos from > https://github.com/mse-org/mseuniverse > I can do a "git clone" of it and test the applications with problems. > > But cool, there is no hurry and summer is coming. > > 😉 > > Fre;D > > ------------------------------ > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* lundi 5 juin 2023 15:00 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > Hi Fred, > > There are a few more problems regarding folders, but I won't tell you > until you have some more time for this, is not an emergency, I'm also > working on other projects... > > Plus, a message, about an access violation that does not visibly affect > the functionality of mseide... > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 9:08 PM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you Fred, I will check it this night! > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 9:06 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Vasi and everybody. > > OK done. All seems fixed, graphic, directory and file access, error at > closing. > Tested also memory leak for mseide and ideU: 0 memory leak. (with last > commit). > > Ready to be tested! > > It was a nice battle. > > Fre;D > > ------------------------------ > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* dimanche 4 juin 2023 16:24 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > Wow! Amazing job man! Ha ha! > Congratulations! You checked one more operating system for msegui and ideU! > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 5:49 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Vasi. > > OK the fully workable solution found! > readdir_r() is in the pocked (ok last commit ). > > > https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/a8180cc9-e65f-4a05-a2c1-e9de4b3e160a > > > https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/813bd25c-5f93-4130-8bb2-9249f19e89da > > Yep! > > Fre;D > > > ------------------------------ > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* samedi 3 juin 2023 16:56 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > I intend to use that as well... one day we might find a fully workable > solution... > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 2:40 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Re-hello Vasi. > > ideU compiles and works ok. > > https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/1d68e8bb-1fa0-40e2-9849-52fc534bda16 > > Of course the file-dialog does not work but if you write the complete path > of a project, it loads and you can use the ide. > > So there is only that readdir_r() method that makes shadow, I hope that > some light will appear... > > Fre;D > > ------------------------------ > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* vendredi 2 juin 2023 23:58 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > Thank you Fred, your effort is greatly appreciated! I am happy with what > you did already! > Thank you again! > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 11:49 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Hello Vasi. > > I did spent some white night and black afternoon but I am blocked with one > method that does not work as expected. > > It is function "sys_readdirstream(var stream: dirstreamty; var info: > fileinfoty): boolean" in /kernel/linux/msesysintf.pas. > With Linux and FreeBSD, after the function > "readdir64_r(pdir(d.dir),@dirent,@po1) = 0" the dirent.d_name is correct > but there is nothing with OpenBSD. > > Note that with OpenBSD it is "readdir_r" method that is used from libc and > the "dirent" record was adapted like in OpenBSD manual. > > So, to resume, all is working apart for components that use > "sys_readdirstream()" method, for example the filedialog component. > > I did try also with last fpc 3.3.1 compiled from trunk, without better > result. > > I have to admit that, sadly, I did not find the solution. > > Fre;D > > ;-( > > ------------------------------ > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* jeudi 1 juin 2023 11:48 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > I will test it in around one hour, and keep you posted. > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 3:40 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Re-..._re hello Vasi. > > Yep, on OpenBSD, mseide compiles, links and ... run! > > Last commit should do the trick. > > Here sceenshot ( the last for tonight ): > > https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/3ff71e23-396a-472a-a34e-083a37284cab > > Fre;D > > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* mercredi 31 mai 2023 19:50 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > * meant to say /etc as destination for the doas.conf file... > > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:48 PM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There is no binary compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD... none of > the *BSDs are compatible. > Lazarus gets compiled from sources using the fpc from OpenBSD repos... > To get root access, your user must be member of wheel and control groups. > Instead of sudo, you use doas. > To activate doas, you have to create a doas.conf in /et with the following > content (a single line): > > permit persist :wheel > > I doubt you will solve it, it is too much work. Right now, I am ok with > Lazarus. Thank you Fred, is not an emergency. OpenBSD as an workstation is > extremely restrictive and kinda slow compared to even FreeBSD, not talking > about linux. THank you again but I will advise not to pursue it further. > > The most annoying thing for me is that I am unable to run apps compiled in > clang that uses GLFW library... lots of crashes... raylib and nanovg > graphic libraries that uses GL are a no-no :( I had more success in > FreeBSD and NetBSD overall... > > > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:30 PM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Fred, > fpc is included in OpenBSD repository... > you look for it with pkg_info -Q fpc > and install it with pkg_add fpc > but you have to install also the other units... > But I think sourceforge has packages for 3.2.2 for OpenBSD? > > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 7:55 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Re-re hello Vasi. > Do you know from where to download a fpc OpenBSD release? > I only found fpc install release for FreeBSD (or maybe the release of fpc > FreeBSD works for OpenBSD) ? > > Thanks. > > > ------------------------------ > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* mercredi 31 mai 2023 10:36 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > Ok, I tried mseide first, it compiles msegui ok but fails at linking... > It says there are undefined references to "__error" and "iconv" in > msecwstring.pas, mselibc.pas and msesysintf1.pas > > Probably OpenBSD not a valid target? > > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:42 AM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Actually, I will try to figure it from your compilation command of uide > from your repository, I'll keep you posted... > > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:23 AM vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you Fred, my problem with mseide-msegui is as follows: > I run OpenBSD 7.3 on one of my laptops (where is fpc 3.2.2 but no Lazarus) > and I would like to have a makefile or a script that assures the > compilation of the msegui units, required to create mseide executable. Once > done, probably I will be able to compile also your ide... > > Of course, I will download your ide for the other operating systems if is > portable as you say - I can't say no to that! > Thank you again! > > On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 6:23 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Thanks Vasi vasi! > > By the way there is a new release of ideU: > https://github.com/fredvs/ideU/releases/ > > In the assets there are also the "PacPas" releases that include all > needed: fpc compiler, gdb debugger, source of msegui, fpgui and bgrabitmap. > No need to config anything, just download the release, unzip it and use it. > You may also install it on a usb stick and compile your project using ideU > from the usb stick, out-of-the-box. > > Without, of course, any conflict with already other fpc installed. > > Fre;D > ------------------------------ > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* mardi 30 mai 2023 12:50 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > Thank you Fred, much appreciated! > > On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 12:37 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Hello Vasi vasi and everybody! > > OK, new very stable release: > https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/releases/tag/5.8.0 > > Enjoy! > > Fre;D > > ------------------------------ > *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com> > *Envoyé :* lundi 29 mai 2023 12:48 > *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui < > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release? > > Yes, always good to have the fixed version! 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