"There are plenty of non-Christians that do not believe in the science of evolutionary biology."
There... fixed that for you. On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Dawn Hayes<realrainma...@gmail.com> wrote: > I try to be respectful of faith, but it does not surprise me when > others do not offer the same courtesy or consideration. > > There are plenty of non-Christians that do not believe in the theory > of evolution. There are scientists that question evolution. Some are > Christian and others are not. Plenty of contributors to science and > other fields of "reason" that we all appreciate came from folks who > believed in God as Christians. Be careful not to turn this into a > ridicule of faith. It may require you to do less "politically correct" > things, like ridicule, say, Islam. God forbid (and I do capitalize my > spelling of God). > > Truth is not relative, but we live in a time where relativism > increasingly colors our opinion of what we perceive as true. Perhaps > that is the real problem. > > Cheers, > > Dawn > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Montserrat Bru > Manobens<zumzumgall...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Don´t know what The Province means by Americans. Does it include Canadians, >> Mexicans and the rest of the Americas, or its just U.S.A? >> Lets hope that the survey referred is more "scientific" than the article. >> Yes, its a matter of hope & faith that the results are accurate. >> Well, lets say it refers to the U.S.A and this is what wikipedia says about >> the believes of their people >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States#Religion >> According to a 2007 survey, 78.4% of adults identified themselves as >> Christian,[141] down from 86.4% in 1990.[142] Protestant denominations >> accounted for 51.3%, while Roman Catholicism, at 23.9%, was the largest >> individual denomination. The study categorizes white evangelicals, 26.3% of >> the population, as the country's largest religious cohort;[141] another >> study estimates evangelicals of all races at 30–35%.[143] The total >> reporting non-Christian religions in 2007 was 4.7%, up from 3.3% in >> 1990.[142] The leading non-Christian faiths were Judaism (1.7%), Buddhism >> (0.7%), Islam (0.6%), Hinduism (0.4%), and Unitarian Universalism >> (0.3%).[141] From 8.2% in 1990,[142] 16.1% in 2007 described themselves as >> agnostic, atheist, or simply having no religion.[141] >> >> Since 78,4% seem to be Christian, and knowing the bible´s approach on >> science: Clever Adam took from the tree of science, could discern between >> good and evil and became too inquisitive, independent... and mortal! Nice >> plot created by them clever god mongers: Wanna eternal life? Take from our >> tree of life, but u must not question or even reason or doubt, because u´re >> a natural born sinner. Just believe what we say, make regular contributions >> to the church, preferably in cash and if u´re afraid of dying, rest assured >> u´ll go to heaven. >> >> That´s hard core successful marketing and yes, people dig on heaven and are >> afraid of dying and they´re afraid of thinking and living too!!! >> >> But anyways, if 33% of U.S.A population believes in evolution, the results >> are not so gloomy, seeing that in 2007, only 16.1% described themselves as >> ungodly. >> It shows that some of those 78,4% have a further, lesser gullible >> perspective on the subject. That´s not much, but it´s something >> >> Best >> >> Montse >> >> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> god (?) help us all. >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:53:28 -0400 >>> From: Michael Gurstein <gurst...@gmail.com> >>> Reply-To: stuff...@vancouvercommunity.net >>> To: stuff...@vancouvercommunity.net, ottawadissent...@yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: [stuff-it] FW: Only 33 per cent of Americans believe in evolution >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sid Shniad [mailto:shn...@sfu.ca] >>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:01 PM >>> Subject: Only 33 per cent of Americans believe in evolution >>> >>> >>> http://www.theprovince.com/technology/Science+beliefs+faltering/1776905/stor >>> y.html >>> >>> >>> >>> The Province July 10, 2009 >>> >>> >>> >>> Science beliefs faltering >>> >>> >>> >>> Only 33 per cent of Americans believe in evolution >>> >>> >>> >>> Americans still value the nation's scientific achievements, but unlike >>> most >>> scientists, they often pick and choose which scientific findings they >>> agree >>> with, especially in the areas of climate change and evolution, according >>> to >>> a survey released yesterday. >>> >>> >>> >>> The survey found nine in 10 scientists accept the idea of evolution by >>> natural selection, but just a third of the public does. And while 84 per >>> cent of scientists say the Earth is getting warmer because of human >>> activity, less than half of the public agrees with that. >>> >>> >>> >>> "The public and the scientists have very different views on many different >>> issues, including the science of evolution and climate change," said Scott >>> Keeter of the Pew Research Center. The centre conducted the wide-ranging >>> telephone survey in collaboration with the American Association for the >>> Advancement of Science. >>> >>> >>> >>> The research included responses from 2,533 scientists in the AAAS, and >>> 2,001 >>> public respondents. >>> >>> >>> >>> It found most Americans value the nation's scientific achievements, but >>> not >>> as much as they did a decade ago. >>> >>> >>> >>> Although 27 per cent of Americans said scientific advances are the >>> nation's >>> greatest achievement, that was down from 47 per cent in the group's May >>> 1999 >>> survey. >>> >>> >>> >>> The administration of Barack Obama has promised that science will lead >>> health-care and climate-change policy, and has pledged to seek a cure for >>> cancer, now the No. 2 killer of Americans. >>> >>> >>> >>> According to the survey, most scientists and the public agree it is >>> appropriate for scientists to take part in political debate over issues >>> such >>> as stem-cell research. >>> >>> >>> >>> And even Americans who disagree with scientific conclusions think highly >>> of >>> scientists. More than two-thirds of those who say science conflicts with >>> their religious beliefs still say scientists contribute significantly to >>> society. >>> >>> !DSPAM:2676,4a5784bf25632001016420! >>> >>> ------=_Part_39296_44589596.1247248851811 >>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> >>> <html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; >>> }</style></head><body><div >>> style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'><div><font >>> size="2" face="Arial"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style=""><a >>> >>> href="http://www.theprovince.com/technology/Science+beliefs+faltering/177690 >>> 5/story.html" >>> >>> target="_blank">http://www.theprovince.com/technology/Science+beliefs+falter >>> ing/1776905/story.html</a></span></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style="">The Province<span >>> >>> style=""> & >>> nbsp; >>> </span><span >>> >>> style=""> & >>> >>> nbsp;   >>> >>> ; &nb >>> >>> sp; & >>> nbsp;</span><span >>> >>> style=""> & >>> >>> nbsp;   >>> >>> ; &nb >>> sp; >>> >>> </sp >>> an>July >>> 10, 2009</span></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><b style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Science >>> beliefs faltering</span></b></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="font-size: >>> 12pt;"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><b style=""><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Only 33 per cent of >>> Americans >>> believe in evolution</span></b></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style="">Americans still >>> value the nation's scientific achievements, but unlike most scientists, >>> they >>> >>> often pick and choose which scientific findings they agree with, >>> especially >>> in >>> the areas of climate change and evolution, according to a survey released >>> yesterday.</span></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style="">The survey found >>> nine in 10 scientists accept the idea of evolution by natural selection, >>> but >>> >>> just a third of the public does. And while 84 per cent of scientists say >>> the >>> >>> Earth is getting warmer because of human activity, less than half of the >>> public >>> agrees with that.</span></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style="">"The public and the >>> scientists have very different views on many different issues, including >>> the >>> >>> science of evolution and climate change," said Scott Keeter of the >>> Pew >>> Research Center. The centre conducted the >>> wide-ranging telephone survey in collaboration with the American >>> Association >>> for >>> the Advancement of Science.</span></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style="">The research >>> included responses from 2,533 scientists in the AAAS, and 2,001 public >>> respondents.</span></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style="">It found most >>> Americans value the nation's scientific achievements, but not as much as >>> they >>> did a decade ago.</span></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style="">Although 27 per >>> cent of Americans said scientific advances are the nation's greatest >>> achievement, that was down from 47 per cent in the group's May 1999 >>> survey.</span></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style="">The administration >>> of Barack Obama has promised that science will lead health-care and >>> climate-change policy, and has pledged to seek a cure for cancer, now the >>> No. 2 >>> killer of Americans.</span></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style="">According to the >>> survey, most scientists and the public agree it is appropriate for >>> scientists to >>> take part in political debate over issues such as stem-cell >>> research.</span></p> >>> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span >>> style=""> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm >>> 0pt;"><span style="">And even Americans >>> who disagree with scientific conclusions think highly of scientists. More >>> than >>> two-thirds of those who say science conflicts with their religious beliefs >>> still >>> say scientists contribute significantly to >>> society.</span></p></font></div></div> >>> !DSPAM:2676,4a5784bf25632001016420! >>> >>> </body></html> >>> >>> >>> ------=_Part_39296_44589596.1247248851811-- >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> -- >> CounterTheory of Color project >> http://surveys.polldaddy.com/s/0585AD78EB0ABF57/ >> >> Zumzum Gallery. Emerging Arts. India >> Digital Power Poetry project >> House 156. Anjuna Zoor Waddo >> Anjuna 403509 Goa. India >> India cell: +91 9850781599 >> >> Zumzum Gallery.Emerging Arts. Barcelona >> post address: Gràcia Fiscal, s.l. Camprodon 1 08012 Barcelona Spain >> Spain Cell: + 34 629486684 >> >> Zumzum Gallery. Emerging Arts. 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