Well, you'll have X amount of time where your entire network is down.  I
can't generally afford sustained downtime like that, even planned.


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Neil Standley <standl...@net-venture.com>
wrote:

>  While I have yet to P2V a DC, I have converted several other member
> servers and they were all relatively quick, roughly 90 minutes or so to
> perform the conversion. Then once the new VM comes up configure the IP if
> necessary and reboot, activate license, check event logs/services and done,
> at least up to this point.
>
>
>
> How would this differ with a DC?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Link
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 5:40 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC
>
>
>
> A P2V, especially an offline one, requires some amount of downtime.  It's
> been a while since I've done a P2V, but I don't remember them being all
> that quick...
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Sean Martin <seanmarti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure the OP gets the point, converting to virtual is not the
> ideal path forward. I think everyone here can appreciate that we don't
> always have the luxury of choosing the right path.
>
>
>
> I don't have any direct experience, but it looks like the articles cover
> the process fairly well.
>
>
>
> I'm actually having to consider the same effort for Windows 2003 DCs
> running DNS, WINs and DHCP. We have a hardware refresh effort that needs to
> be completed ASAP and I'm running up against time constraints that may not
> allow me to migrate all of the services and ensure all clients and servers
> have been updated accordingly. A P2V would give us some breathing room and
> allow the migration to be thoroughly thought through, planned and executed.
>
>
>
> Please respond with your experience should you decide to move forward with
> your P2V.
>
>
>
> - Sean
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@live.com> wrote:
>
> Personally I have never been comfortable with allowing users access to a
> DC for any reason other than the purpose the DC is for.  Allowing a DC as a
> file server is just asking for trouble and on a 2003 having print server is
> just asking for multiple restarts if there are printing issues.  Both
> belong on another machine.
>
> Jon
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> From: jnat...@hotmail.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC
> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 19:00:50 -0400
>
>
>
> +1
> new DC, DCPROMO, old DC demote, and export / import print servers
> (assuming there are dozens or hundreds) otherwise recreate
>
>
> Jean-Paul Natola
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> From: standl...@net-venture.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC
> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 22:14:56 +0000
>
> One of the DCs is file/print/DNS, the other is a DC/DNS server, it also
> had Exchange 2003 but that was migrated off to a new 2010 server a while
> back.
>
>
>
> I see the reason for what you’re suggesting and the only arguments I can
> come up with is that P2V would save me from having to reconfigure client
> device IP settings, and building the new DC.
>
> I guess it boils down to whether or not I’m willing to take the risk of
> something going wrong with the conversion.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Webster
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 2:50 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC
>
>
>
> Why?  Is this server a DC only and runs nothing but DC type functions?  If
> so, bring up a new VM and DCPromo it.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> Webster
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Neil Standley
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:40 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] P2V DC
>
>
>
> I’ve been reading up regarding P2V of Domain controllers (2003 R2 SP2 in
> this case) and I think I have it down but wanted to get some feedback from
> the collective before setting forth on my project.
>
>
>
> Following the recommendations from the articles below, my understanding is
> that I should:
>
>
>
> a.       Perform an Offline conversion. Both DCs would be powered off at
> the completion of the conversion process.
>
> b.      Disable time sync between the virtual DC and the virtual host. In
> this case I’m using VMware Essentials 5.5 U1 – Note this is already done.
>
> c.       Never connect the original, physical DC to my network again to
> avoid USN rollback.
>
>
>
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/askds/archive/2010/06/10/how-to-virtualize-active-directory-domain-controllers-part-21.aspx
>
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/askds/archive/2010/06/10/how-to-virtualize-active-directory-domain-controllers-part-2.aspx
>
>
> http://www.sole.dk/virtualizing-your-domain-controllers-without-getting-fired/
>
>
>
> Is it really this simple? I feel like there’s a gotcha out there waiting
> to bite me real hard.
>
> Any suggestions or pointers to additional reading is much appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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