We have come to a realization here that if after 15 minutes of troubleshooting on a frontline machine to just reimage and move on.
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Melvin Backus Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 9:22 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC I suppose that was kind of my point. It’s odd. Despite my inherent ‘need to know’ what causes this sort of thing, over the years I’ve come to realize that some things just aren’t “knowable” and learned when to cut my losses and move on. We too moved beyond the point of there being anything left physical that can reasonably be virtualized. Legacy *nix boxes, etc., are pretty much all that’s left. Now if we could just do the same with our the rest of our workstation users. ☺ -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Richard Stovall Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 9:13 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC That's odd. I have done lots of conversions. A number of P2Vs, first to VMware, then V2V to Hyper-V when we changed platforms. Only had one that just flat didn't work and had to rebuild, and it runs an odd service that is somewhat problematic all by itself. Now I don't have any Ps left to V! (The physical machines we have left are virtual hosts or run workloads not suited to a VM in our environment.) On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Melvin Backus <melvin.bac...@byers.com<mailto:melvin.bac...@byers.com>> wrote: That said, in pretty much every case of machines that we’ve done a P2V, while they were successful, we later ended up rebuilding the VM or replacing it, either because of weird failures or performance issues. I know that *shouldn’t* happen, but after a few rounds of fighting it we just stopped doing it entirely. -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] On Behalf Of Sean Martin Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:36 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC I'm pretty sure the OP gets the point, converting to virtual is not the ideal path forward. I think everyone here can appreciate that we don't always have the luxury of choosing the right path. I don't have any direct experience, but it looks like the articles cover the process fairly well. I'm actually having to consider the same effort for Windows 2003 DCs running DNS, WINs and DHCP. We have a hardware refresh effort that needs to be completed ASAP and I'm running up against time constraints that may not allow me to migrate all of the services and ensure all clients and servers have been updated accordingly. A P2V would give us some breathing room and allow the migration to be thoroughly thought through, planned and executed. Please respond with your experience should you decide to move forward with your P2V. - Sean On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@live.com<mailto:jk.har...@live.com>> wrote: Personally I have never been comfortable with allowing users access to a DC for any reason other than the purpose the DC is for. Allowing a DC as a file server is just asking for trouble and on a 2003 having print server is just asking for multiple restarts if there are printing issues. Both belong on another machine. Jon ________________________________ From: jnat...@hotmail.com<mailto:jnat...@hotmail.com> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 19:00:50 -0400 +1 new DC, DCPROMO, old DC demote, and export / import print servers (assuming there are dozens or hundreds) otherwise recreate Jean-Paul Natola ________________________________ From: standl...@net-venture.com<mailto:standl...@net-venture.com> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 22:14:56 +0000 One of the DCs is file/print/DNS, the other is a DC/DNS server, it also had Exchange 2003 but that was migrated off to a new 2010 server a while back. I see the reason for what you’re suggesting and the only arguments I can come up with is that P2V would save me from having to reconfigure client device IP settings, and building the new DC. I guess it boils down to whether or not I’m willing to take the risk of something going wrong with the conversion. Thanks. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] On Behalf Of Webster Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 2:50 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC Why? Is this server a DC only and runs nothing but DC type functions? If so, bring up a new VM and DCPromo it. Thanks Webster From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Neil Standley Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:40 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [NTSysADM] P2V DC I’ve been reading up regarding P2V of Domain controllers (2003 R2 SP2 in this case) and I think I have it down but wanted to get some feedback from the collective before setting forth on my project. Following the recommendations from the articles below, my understanding is that I should: a. Perform an Offline conversion. Both DCs would be powered off at the completion of the conversion process. b. Disable time sync between the virtual DC and the virtual host. In this case I’m using VMware Essentials 5.5 U1 – Note this is already done. c. Never connect the original, physical DC to my network again to avoid USN rollback. http://blogs.technet.com/b/askds/archive/2010/06/10/how-to-virtualize-active-directory-domain-controllers-part-21.aspx http://blogs.technet.com/b/askds/archive/2010/06/10/how-to-virtualize-active-directory-domain-controllers-part-2.aspx http://www.sole.dk/virtualizing-your-domain-controllers-without-getting-fired/ Is it really this simple? I feel like there’s a gotcha out there waiting to bite me real hard. Any suggestions or pointers to additional reading is much appreciated. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana Members Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. 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