Give me 2 linemen in trench coats that have not shaved or showered in a
few days. Get up tell everyone we have a bomb. That is all it would
take. NO WEAPONS NEEDED, to hyjack a plane. How do you implement
security to solve that problem?
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events
I, for one, would be willing to trade in some conveniences, but not
freedoms. I would be totally fine with MUCH more heightened security at
airports. Do you realize it is LEGAL to carry a knife with a 4" blade
onto a plane??? Because of people with pocket knives, my plane could
get hijacked. I don't accept that. On several occasions as I traveled,
security did not check what I put in the little dishes as I go through
the metal detector's. I am asthmatic, and often carry an inhaler. I
could have been mace, and I could have gotten it on board. Delaying
passengers even an hour or two for every flight due to increased
security checks is not much in my mind to reduce the risk of this ever
happening again. Anywhere.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lentz, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events
Andrew is absolutely correct. We should not give up even small measures
of personal freedom for security. Doing so would prove terrorism
against the US as a successful means of altering the American way of
life, and thus America itself. We as a nation cannot allow that to
happen.
Wayne Lentz
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events
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In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans
are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom
and privacy.
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To me, this is the worse thing about terrorism. We lose what we
cherish, and that is freedom. And many will accept this, because they
think it will be better -- but it won't.
A wise man once said: "They that can give up essential liberty to
obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --
Benjamin Franklin
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject: OT? perspective of events
>
>
>My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by
>these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of
>us indirectly
>affected.
>
>Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions -
>in recent months
>there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic
>snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we
>Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom
>and privacy. As
>IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know
>if someone had
>asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against
>Carnivore. Today,
>I'm willing to accept some software "black-box" scanning my
>email looking
>for suspicious activity.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic discussion, in
>no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all
>for them. Many
>of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like
>the off topic
>discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule.
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