I think that after yesterday's events we would have to agree that nothing
will be the same. One of the things that will change is how passengers
perceive hijackings. Before yesterday passengers could assume that this was
a "fly me to Cuba" and they had a chance of living through it. Rules have
changed. A hijacking now could be a suicide mission, so unless the hijackers
have very lethal weapons (read guns) there's 50 of us and 5 of them. I don't
care if they are linebackers with knives, I know what I'm going to do and I
think that a lot of people are going to think the same including the pilots
and staff.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:38 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events
>
>
> Give me 2 linemen in trench coats that have not shaved or
> showered in a
> few days. Get up tell everyone we have a bomb. That is all it would
> take. NO WEAPONS NEEDED, to hyjack a plane. How do you implement
> security to solve that problem?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events
>
>
> I, for one, would be willing to trade in some conveniences, but not
> freedoms. I would be totally fine with MUCH more heightened
> security at
> airports. Do you realize it is LEGAL to carry a knife with a 4" blade
> onto a plane??? Because of people with pocket knives, my plane could
> get hijacked. I don't accept that. On several occasions as
> I traveled,
> security did not check what I put in the little dishes as I go through
> the metal detector's. I am asthmatic, and often carry an inhaler. I
> could have been mace, and I could have gotten it on board. Delaying
> passengers even an hour or two for every flight due to increased
> security checks is not much in my mind to reduce the risk of this ever
> happening again. Anywhere.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lentz, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:21 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events
>
>
> Andrew is absolutely correct. We should not give up even
> small measures
> of personal freedom for security. Doing so would prove terrorism
> against the US as a successful means of altering the American way of
> life, and thus America itself. We as a nation cannot allow that to
> happen.
>
> Wayne Lentz
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:30 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans
> are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom
> and privacy.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> To me, this is the worse thing about terrorism. We lose what we
> cherish, and that is freedom. And many will accept this, because they
> think it will be better -- but it won't.
>
> A wise man once said: "They that can give up essential liberty to
> obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
> safety." --
> Benjamin Franklin
>
>
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>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM
> >To: NT System Admin Issues
> >Subject: OT? perspective of events
> >
> >
> >My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly affected by
> >these cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of
> >us indirectly
> >affected.
> >
> >Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions -
> >in recent months
> >there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's
> electronic
> >snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure we
> >Americans are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom
> >and privacy. As
> >IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know
> >if someone had
> >asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against
> >Carnivore. Today,
> >I'm willing to accept some software "black-box" scanning my
> >email looking
> >for suspicious activity.
> >
> >Thoughts?
> >
> >BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic
> discussion, in
> >no way am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all
> >for them. Many
> >of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like
> >the off topic
> >discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule.
> >
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