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The ellipses are actually included in the URL -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Webster <carlwebs...@gmail.com> wrote: > And Citrix just updated their Streaming Profiler to version 6. While at > the same time they are doing a road show with Microsoft telling people to > use App-V with XA6 and XenDesktop and Microsoft is saying that you get > better performance and better scalability with XenDesktop 4. > > > > > http://community.citrix.com/display/ocb/2010/03/12/Go+ahead+use+App-V%2C+no+really%2C+please > ... > > > > > > > > Carl Webster > > Citrix Technology Professional > > http://dabcc.com/Webster > > > > > > *From:* Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] > *Subject:* RE: Virtualizing applications > > > > I doubt Microsoft is ceding virtualized desktops. They just added virtual > desktop and a slew of new virtual app features in server 2008 R2. > > > > *From:* Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] > *Subject:* RE: Virtualizing applications > > > > Just between me and you (and everyone else on this list) my Citrix contacts > are telling me to concentrate on App-V (and hurry up and write some articles > on it). > > > > Citrix is ceding streaming to App-V > > Microsoft is ceding virtualized desktops to XenDesktop > > > > Just what I have been told by several Citrites. > > > > Hope to learn more at the Citrix Synergy next week and from all the CTP > meetings. I will fill you in on what is not NDA when I get back (just > remind me). > > > > > > Carl Webster > > Citrix Technology Professional > > http://dabcc.com/Webster > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] > *Subject:* RE: Virtualizing applications > > > > Wow, so no more streaming profiler. I had issues with it off and on. > App-v it is. > > >>> "Webster" <carlwebs...@gmail.com> 5/5/2010 12:13 PM >>> > > Yes that is what I am saying. > > > > > > Webster > > > > *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] > *Subject:* RE: Virtualizing applications > > > > Webster are you saying use App-V instead of Citrix streaming? I'll need to > keep that in mind for XenDesktop when I roll that out. > > >>> "Webster" <carlwebs...@gmail.com> 5/5/2010 10:44 AM >>> > > Citrix now recommends using App-V with XenApp 6. I would recommend going > in that direction. I will be as soon as I can find some lab time that is > not spent writing articles. Several of the CTPs are also App-V MVPs. > > > > > > > > Carl Webster > > Citrix Technology Professional > > http://dabcc.com/Webster > > > > > > > > *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] > *Subject:* Virtualizing applications > > > > We are in the process of migrating our Citrix 4.5 x86 Windows 2003 R2 farm > to a brand new, Windows 2008 R2 XenApp 6 x64 environment. All is going > swimmingly well...until a couple of departments remind us that they have > some old apps that are vitally important to them they'd like including in > the new deployment. All this after they forgot to mention it in the initial > systems analysis and only two days before go-live....the lack of > communication is an issue I'm not looking for advice on. > > The issue I am concerned with is how to get these apps into the new > environment. Naturally, they won't install on x64 servers or 2008. Because > we're using XenApp 6 we can't join either MPS 4.5 or XenApp 5 servers to the > farm, which would have been handy as we could have built an x86 server and > published these apps on it. So I thought I'd fire up another server, install > the Citrix Streaming Profiler and virtualize them as streamed applications > to the new environment. No dice there either. The first of these problem > apps uses a huge set of patches that have to be deployed through a > vendor-specific patching tool, and this causes the profiler to crash. Same > with the second app - it uses some strange installer procedures and the > profiler fails when running it. So I am kind of at a dead end. > > The only other thing I can think of is using App-V, but I'm worried that > this will a) put me back a few days as I learn how to use it, and b) could > possibly fail in the same way as the Citrix Profiler solution. There's also > the problem of learning how to integrate XenApp 6 and App-V, which I am sure > can be done but which I have no experience of. Either way, it seems a bit > tricky. > > Does anyone else have any bright ideas that might help out? Could I use RDP > connections to a virtual x86 server with these apps on and use Terminal > Services to "publish" applications in the same way as Citrix does, without > the hassle of the incompatible farms in Citrix? Or is there some better way > of virtualizing application access, or indeed any other way I could achieve > this in the small timeframe I have been left with? All ideas, hints, tips > and suggestions are gratefully accepted. > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
