A “member” of what exactly?

Please excuse my brevity.  Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:33 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know it 
> exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook, discord, 
> whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might make it 
> more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook, since it's 
> easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't require special 
> knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds but it does ge 
> them in touch with local birders. 
>  And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the 
> bird reposted within minutes. 
> 
> Jennifer Wilson Pines
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>  
>> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>>  
>> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to 
>> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. 
>> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs from 
>> all over the country.
>>  
>> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders 
>> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>>  
>> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first 
>> NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and 
>> join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have disappeared 
>> in the meantime.
>>  
>> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher as 
>> accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often quite 
>> a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. There's an 
>> easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the NYSBIRDS-L, 
>> which will serve us all well once the bird in question has flown elsewhere.
>>  
>> My opinion,
>>  
>> Deb Allen
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
>> To: Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net>
>> Cc: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com>, NYSBIRDS-L <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>> 
>>  
>> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it 
>> reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and 
>> groups beyond this one. 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Andrew,
>>>  
>>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird 
>>> in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not 
>>> subscribed to the list - that's my guess. 
>>>  
>>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of 
>>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I 
>>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the 
>>> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders 
>>> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm 
>>> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on 
>>> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>>>  
>>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>>>  
>>> Deb Allen
>>>  
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
>>> To: NYS Birds <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>
>>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
>>> closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
>>> here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
>>> shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group 
>>> until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 
>>> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.  
>>>  
>>> Andrew
>>>  
>>> Andrew v. F. Block
>>> Consulting Naturalist
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>>> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780 
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