Some of us choose not to do Facebook or Twitter for innumerable reasons. NYSBIRDS is a State list accessible to any and all (even beyond its borders). It is free to join for free merely with an email address and as far as I know doesn’t track your “likes”. It has no political bent and you need not know someone to join or perhaps do not want to join a closed eg WhatsApp group.
How hard is the 20 seconds it may take to cross-post such an extremely rare bird (eg recently anhinga, neotropic cormorant (but not the upstate one I learned from weekly NYSBIRDS rare alert), loggerhead shrike, etc.) to this statewide list (and beyond), even if already posted to your venue of choice? As to Sulphur bellied fly, “I’ve been empty since Arizona”. (A nod to AE.) L. Trachtenberg Ossining Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:35 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > not to forget twitter threads, > >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:32 PM Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know it >> exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook, discord, >> whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might make it >> more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook, since it's >> easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't require special >> knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds but it does ge >> them in touch with local birders. >> And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the >> bird reposted within minutes. >> >> Jennifer Wilson Pines >> >>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> Hi Jennifer, >>> >>> I seem to have touched a nerve. >>> >>> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to >>> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. >>> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs >>> from all over the country. >>> >>> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders >>> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark. >>> >>> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first >>> NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and >>> join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have >>> disappeared in the meantime. >>> >>> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher >>> as accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often >>> quite a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. >>> There's an easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the >>> NYSBIRDS-L, which will serve us all well once the bird in question has >>> flown elsewhere. >>> >>> My opinion, >>> >>> Deb Allen >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM >>> To: Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> >>> Cc: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com>, NYSBIRDS-L >>> <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu> >>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill? >>> >>> >>> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it >>> reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and >>> groups beyond this one. >>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> Andrew, >>>> >>>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird >>>> in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not >>>> subscribed to the list - that's my guess. >>>> >>>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of >>>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I >>>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the >>>> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders >>>> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm >>>> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on >>>> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting. >>>> >>>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow, >>>> >>>> Deb Allen >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com> >>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM >>>> To: NYS Birds <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu> >>>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill? >>>> >>>> >>>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who >>>> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am. A shame it was never >>>> posted here. Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later. >>>> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB >>>> group until hours later. The report never came up on my FB until about 40 >>>> minutes ago. A shame what birding has become. >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> >>>> Andrew v. F. Block >>>> Consulting Naturalist >>>> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3 >>>> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780 >>>> www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums >>>> -- >>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>> Welcome and Basics >>>> Rules and Information >>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>> Archives: >>>> The Mail Archive >>>> Surfbirds >>>> ABA >>>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>> -- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>> Welcome and Basics >>>> Rules and Information >>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>> Archives: >>>> The Mail Archive >>>> Surfbirds >>>> ABA >>>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>> -- >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jennifer Wilson-Pines >>> -- >>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>> Welcome and Basics >>> Rules and Information >>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>> Archives: >>> The Mail Archive >>> Surfbirds >>> ABA >>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>> -- >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jennifer Wilson-Pines > > > -- > Jennifer Wilson-Pines > -- > NYSbirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > ABA > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
