Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> Date: 10/9/22 9:20 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> Cc: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com>, NYSBIRDS-L <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill? Hi Jennifer, I seem to have touched a nerve. On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs from all over the country. I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark. I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have disappeared in the meantime. We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher as accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often quite a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. There's an easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the NYSBIRDS-L, which will serve us all well once the bird in question has flown elsewhere. My opinion, Deb Allen
-----Original Message-----From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com>Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PMTo: Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net>Cc: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com>, NYSBIRDS-L <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill? The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and groups beyond this one. On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> wrote: Andrew, You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not subscribed to the list - that's my guess. The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting. Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow, Deb Allen -----Original Message-----From: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com>Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PMTo: NYS Birds <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill? Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am. A shame it was never posted here. Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later. Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group until hours later. The report never came up on my FB until about 40 minutes ago. A shame what birding has become. Andrew Andrew v. F. BlockConsulting Naturalist20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3 Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780 www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Jennifer Wilson-Pines -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --