Hey yelims, First of all please take a deep breath, and please tell us what exactly you want to do, do you want to write OpenSocial applications, or do you want to allow your site to contain OpenSocial apps?
In the first case, it does indeed save you from having to write logins and all that, the social network sites in which your application runs does all that for you, and using the OpenSocial API you can query for who's viewing the page, who owns the page, get friends, etc etc. A great start for learning about that is the tutorial: http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/articles/tutorial/tutorial-0.8.html In the second case, where you'd want to create an social network site, which can host OpenSocial applications, then the burden of implementing logins, and lots of other details, is upto you .. OpenSocial is a standard which allows an 'social gadget' to run on any social platform, but not a 'social network site' product, it's just the API for OpenSocial. If you want to create a container, you'll be happy to hear that there is a PHP version of shindig available, see the PHP directory under http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shindig/trunk/ also there is an example available of how to use this in Partuza: http://code.google.com/p/partuza/ (and a live demo is available at www.partuza.nl). There are some step-by-step guides for installing that available for mac and win, and a rough guide for *nix (to many varients to make a walk-through guide for, and most *nix admins don't really need it either): http://www.chabotc.com/php/setting-up-shindig-and-partuza-on-a-mac/ http://www.chabotc.com/generic/setting-up-shindig-and-partuza-on-windows/ http://code.google.com/p/partuza/w/list There is a possible third and fourth scenario, from your email it's a little hard to judge what exactly your looking for, or what exactly you think OpenSocial is or should do. Option 3 is using hybrid OpenID and OAuth to allow users to authenticate their identity (for example let google verify that I'm 'Chris Chabot' and my gmail id is 'chab...@gmail.com'), and get an oauth access token to get access to, for instance, our OpenSocial people end point, so that you could also retrieve (and by storing the oauth access token, keep refreshing every day/week/whatever) the friendlist for that person. This doesn't alleviate the need for making your own local database and storing the ID's, but it does make the login easier, allows people to not have to remember another login and password, and take their friend lists with them to your site too. If that's what your interested in (do note this isn't 'OpenSocial' but 'OpenID, OAuth, and OpenSocial for the friend lists'), these are a great starting point: The spec: http://code.google.com/p/step2/ announcement: http://googledataapis.blogspot.com/2009/01/bringing-openid-and-oauth-together.html live demo: http://googlecodesamples.com/hybrid/ php example code: http://code.google.com/p/gdata-samples/source/browse/#svn/trunk/hybrid and also a great resource for getting started is Plaxo's 'A Recipe for OpenID-Enabling Your Site' : http://www.plaxo.com/api/openid_recipe This technique (hybrid openid and oauth) is pretty new but has been a huge success in the initial live trials: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/comcast_property_sees_92_success_rate_openid.php You can also use similar techniques to login to social network's REST API's using 2 or 3 legged OAuth and importing social information from those social sites, there's a preview of a new PHP library for doing those kind of things available at: http://opensocial-php-client.googlecode.com/files/opensocial-php-client-1.0preview.zip The fourth option is 'Google FriendConnect', for which the main URL is: http://www.google.com/friendconnect/ FriendConnect is intended for if you really don't want to write any authentication code or store anything in your local databases, and just want to add 'social' to your site without any headaches of implementation, it allows people to loging with their openid, google, yahoo or aim account and connect their friend lists from various social networks (at the moment a somewhat short list, but much more is coming in the near future). Again this isn't to be confused with 'OpenSocial', it does use OpenSocial under the covers to get friend lists and post activities and does allow you to host OpenSocial apps on your site through FriendConnect, but it's not at all the second case I've described above, it's letting Google taking care of all those details for you, and very easily add social features to your site. It already has a very exciting range of options, but it'll get a lot more very exciting features in the days to come (unfortunately I can't comment on what exactly, other then that it'll be really cool :) So there you have it, 4 different answers for 4 different questions, I hope one of them fits your requirements and clears up what OpenSocial is and how you can leverage the various aspects of it :) -- Chris On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:00 AM, yelims <fidel.nu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ok i dont get it why are there no clear examples from google > > for example i want my php app to be able to allow users to login, > signup and do things on my site > > from what i read i need to implement some "shinding" wtf? thats coded > in java on my server, whoa?! i will not ever ever again touch java on > linux with a long pole again > > is there no php only solution or tutorials? > > i have to say i built several signup/login/session systems for sites > before and i taught opensocial would spare me of it, but all it seems > to be doing is bringing more complexity in to the picture > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenSocial Application Development" group. 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