Hi sorry to appear to be bitchy earlier, i just felt a little deflated with opensocial, your marketing dept sure did a good job :p
anyways i think i found what i needed and i described what i needed to do here http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-client-libraries/browse_thread/thread/9f64a8b34e066ba6 Regards On Feb 12, 11:30 am, Chris Chabot <chab...@google.com> wrote: > Hey yelims, > > First of all please take a deep breath, and please tell us what exactly you > want to do, do you want to write OpenSocial applications, or do you want to > allow your site to contain OpenSocial apps? > > In the first case, it does indeed save you from having to write logins and > all that, the social network sites in which your application runs does all > that for you, and using the OpenSocial API you can query for who's viewing > the page, who owns the page, get friends, etc etc. A great start for > learning about that is the > tutorial:http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/articles/tutorial/tutorial-0.8... > > In the second case, where you'd want to create an social network site, which > can host OpenSocial applications, then the burden of implementing logins, > and lots of other details, is upto you .. OpenSocial is a standard which > allows an 'social gadget' to run on any social platform, but not a 'social > network site' product, it's just the API for OpenSocial. > > If you want to create a container, you'll be happy to hear that there is a > PHP version of shindig available, see the PHP directory > underhttp://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shindig/trunk/also there is an > example available of how to use this in > Partuza:http://code.google.com/p/partuza/(and a live demo is available > atwww.partuza.nl). > > There are some step-by-step guides for installing that available for mac and > win, and a rough guide for *nix (to many varients to make a walk-through > guide for, and most *nix admins don't really need it > either):http://www.chabotc.com/php/setting-up-shindig-and-partuza-on-a-mac/http://www.chabotc.com/generic/setting-up-shindig-and-partuza-on-wind...http://code.google.com/p/partuza/w/list > > There is a possible third and fourth scenario, from your email it's a little > hard to judge what exactly your looking for, or what exactly you think > OpenSocial is or should do. > > Option 3 is using hybrid OpenID and OAuth to allow users to authenticate > their identity (for example let google verify that I'm 'Chris Chabot' and my > gmail id is 'chab...@gmail.com'), and get an oauth access token to get > access to, for instance, our OpenSocial people end point, so that you could > also retrieve (and by storing the oauth access token, keep refreshing every > day/week/whatever) the friendlist for that person. This doesn't alleviate > the need for making your own local database and storing the ID's, but it > does make the login easier, allows people to not have to remember another > login and password, and take their friend lists with them to your site too. > > If that's what your interested in (do note this isn't 'OpenSocial' but > 'OpenID, OAuth, and OpenSocial for the friend lists'), these are a great > starting point: > The spec:http://code.google.com/p/step2/ > announcement:http://googledataapis.blogspot.com/2009/01/bringing-openid-and-oauth-... > live demo:http://googlecodesamples.com/hybrid/ > php example > code:http://code.google.com/p/gdata-samples/source/browse/#svn/trunk/hybrid > and also a great resource for getting started is Plaxo's 'A Recipe for > OpenID-Enabling Your Site' :http://www.plaxo.com/api/openid_recipe > > This technique (hybrid openid and oauth) is pretty new but has been a huge > success in the initial live > trials:http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/comcast_property_sees_92_success... > > You can also use similar techniques to login to social network's REST API's > using 2 or 3 legged OAuth and importing social information from those social > sites, there's a preview of a new PHP library for doing those kind of things > available > at:http://opensocial-php-client.googlecode.com/files/opensocial-php-clie... > > The fourth option is 'Google FriendConnect', for which the main URL > is:http://www.google.com/friendconnect/FriendConnect is intended for if you > really don't want to write any authentication code or store anything in your > local databases, and just want to add 'social' to your site without any > headaches of implementation, it allows people to loging with their openid, > google, yahoo or aim account and connect their friend lists from various > social networks (at the moment a somewhat short list, but much more is > coming in the near future). Again this isn't to be confused with > 'OpenSocial', it does use OpenSocial under the covers to get friend lists > and post activities and does allow you to host OpenSocial apps on your site > through FriendConnect, but it's not at all the second case I've described > above, it's letting Google taking care of all those details for you, and > very easily add social features to your site. It already has a very exciting > range of options, but it'll get a lot more very exciting features in the > days to come (unfortunately I can't comment on what exactly, other then that > it'll be really cool :) > > So there you have it, 4 different answers for 4 different questions, I hope > one of them fits your requirements and clears up what OpenSocial is and how > you can leverage the various aspects of it :) > > -- Chris > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:00 AM, yelims <fidel.nu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ok i dont get it why are there no clear examples from google > > > for example i want my php app to be able to allow users to login, > > signup and do things on my site > > > from what i read i need to implement some "shinding" wtf? thats coded > > in java on my server, whoa?! i will not ever ever again touch java on > > linux with a long pole again > > > is there no php only solution or tutorials? > > > i have to say i built several signup/login/session systems for sites > > before and i taught opensocial would spare me of it, but all it seems > > to be doing is bringing more complexity in to the picture --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenSocial Application Development" group. 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