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Andreas Jaeger schreef: > Here are the minutes from yesterday's dist meeting. If you have any > questions, comments, ideas, please speak up! > > Thanks, > Andreas > > > * Enabling more network services to be NetworkManager aware, e.g. ntp and > autofs > > This is in general desired but might need quite large rework for some > services like autofs that do not handle IP changes properly. > > Proposal: Services should be aware that network goes up/down and > handle no network (instead of timing out). > > Let's look what can be done for ntp - and later look at other > services. Note the ntp service is also usefull for machines without > network (serial DCF77 clock). Right now the dispatcher script sends a > signal to ntp if the IP address changes but during boot ntp starts > even if network is not running. > > Suggestion: ntp start script should figure out if NetworkManager is > running and if it is only start if network is up - otherwise the > dispatcher script will start it. This is also a good idea, to make sure things happen as they should... > > AI: Work together on ntp. > > Dial-in support for NetworkManager to support ISDN, Modem, UMTS, 3G > cards is beeing worked on and should be ready for openSUSE 10.3. > > * Checkin policy for specific projects and how to track them > > Current example is postgresql. This was a question for security > update of old distributions. The maintenance team grants exceptions > on a case by case basis, e.g. if the new version just fixes the > security problem. > > * AppArmor: Move the profiles from our package to their packages > > This would allow easier tracking of changes in packages. On the other > hand a central place might give some extra review. > > Consensus: If the format is stable enough, we should distribute the > profiles. Once we do it, we should train the packagers and institure > some review process for the profiles to maintain a high quality. > > Beside manual page apparmor.d(5) a short documentation for packagers > in plain english of the format is missed. > > AI: talk to Apparmor folks. > > * Faster booting? > What can be done here? > > Booting consists of kernel startup, initrd and System V scripts. > The bootchart scripts do measure the System V scripts but not the > initial ramdisk. > > Idea: Snapshotting at gdm/kdm time: Write a snapshot and resume at > the next boot back to this version. This is different from suspend > to disk. This looks like a smart idea, suspend to disk sometimes fails, but if it works, it takes a little less time than a complete boot...(and one is were one left off..) > > Filesystem fragmentation under Linux is in general not a problem - > but it is a problem in booting. Therefore measurements have to be > done on freshly installed systems. > > AI: Generate some bootcharts to show current bottlenecks. > > * Shrink the basepackages (packages always installed for building) > > With todays changes we seem to be able to do a self-contained > build of base with just 72 source packages (spec files). By heavily > stripping the set of basepacks of course. And we have side-by-side > compiles against the openSUSE config to compare logfiles (no differences > sofar). > > This means that e.g. vim and strace will be removed from the build > environment. The autobuild team will add options to build to easily > add debug tools to the tree. > > AI: Show list of packages to autobuild to adjust configs, announce > changes to opensuse-packaging - and run comparisions of the complete > system to check that all requirements are met. > > * Email notifications for checkins for not novell addresses > > Package.changes file coming from the build service might contain > non-Novell email addresses. We decided to not send any autobuild > emails to those adddresses. > > AI: implement whitelist of domains (currently @novell.com, > @suse.de, @suse.cz) > > > Andreas - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.2" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGA853X5/X5X6LpDgRAkSlAKCYzeoTZCANKbbHms+9R/v0W/KpQACfeu4T /jAH1II0jLbE2gHQxpsGvK8= =z2cG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
