I think finding rare books generally is a unique struggle.. I once wrote a detailed post of my attack methods ( https://snkhan.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15188 ), and they have been effective but there are limitations.
Particularly, I have no advice on OTC #1, it is truly brutal and I don't own it myself. I once saw OTC #1, 2, 4 & 5 in an auction about 2018 and I left bidding when it was too rough for me, the block sold for like 250000 JPY / $2500 USD and I still think it was the closest I ever got. All you can do is be persistent, and mill the Japanese language auction sites 10x a day (sorta not joking--when these post, poof--remember there are daytime Japanese users seeing these items post fresh and they are savvy purchasers), get lucky, or bid at an organized convention. I feel regret for publications like OTC #1-x, they're beautiful and windows into the advancement of origami, but yeah they're available-ish in PDF to the persistent. It's certainly not ideal. But other gems like OMSE #1, 2 simply don't exist. You can't find them anywhere basically.. All that is to say: I support reaching out to this community with this question. It's a hard one, and what better community to ask. Jeff On Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 11:32 AM wanderer via Origami < origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > Hi everyone! & happy new year too. > > I think that if we created separate FB groups for each topic that we > thought would flood the o-list, that now puts the onus on people to go > visit each of those groups. I think there’d be less discussion. Imo. > > Also - I wonder - why should origami things be differentiated so minutely. > If there was a FB group on, let’s say some specialty paper or something, > that ppl deemed was such a specialized topic, how would I even know whether > this topic would interest me or not - if it wasn’t on the o-list. > > Btw, no one can know beforehand, whether what they post will interest one > or 100 ppl. So why would you separate topics then? How can one know what > topics will bother someone or not? That line of thinking doesn’t make sense > to me. Post what one wants, as it relates to origami, and let ppl on the > list respond as they see fit. > > Even if email is now sorta considered old-skool, I think the beauty of the > o-list as it is now, is that everyone can voice their ideas, in one place… > and true, some interest me and some don’t. But that’s how group > conversations go. But luckily, I don’t have to go to x number of FB groups > to follow origami related chat. > > That’s my 2cents. > > Vishakha > NYC > > . > > > > On Dec 31, 2022, at 13:31, Anne LaVin via Origami < > origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > > > First off, let me wish all the O-list members, far and near, a very happy > new year! > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 7:40 AM Lorenzo via Origami < > origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > >> >> Just a note about this topic (books/publications): I held back from >> sending these kinds of messages to the list, in the past, because I thought >> (and still think) these are interesting topics for a small part of the >> origamists only. And I didn't want to bother the list. >> Recently, I received only a few signs of interest for a separate group >> (focused to books/publications only). Too few, in my opinion, to give life >> to something that has a future, and certainly I don't want to promote any >> separation or "restricted" group, at all, and furthermore I'm also >> discontinuous in my activities, so it has to be a shared effort. >> So, please, keep contacting me privately, if interested in discussing >> about collecting books, as we can sort out a proper solution (such as a >> public FB page which anyone can consult, without having the email inbox >> flooded). >> > > I will play devil's advocate, here, and ask *why* a group mailing list is > not a "proper" solution for this discussion? Even if a particular topic is > of interest to only part of the community, isn't that nearly always true, > for any given thread? > > While I am the first to agree that the use of email (and the technology > that people use to read and send it) has not evolved in a way that makes > true discussion lists all that common any more, this is a pretty > low-traffic list at the moment. It could, in my opinion, certainly > withstand some regular discussion of something as important to the > community as origami books and other publications. > > If that level of list traffic were to be perceived as a "flood", or if > this sort of thing is somehow no longer desired by the list membership, > well, does anyone have a better idea for some sort of forum that would > support such a discussion? Should we finally find another underlying > solution for a home for the O-list community? > > Personally, I do not think that a social-media page is really that great a > way to have a discussion; but then, email has its own limitations, too. > Honestly, no matter what you do, it's hard to have a *conversation* with > 1200 people! > > - Email lists lately seem to mostly get used for one-way, > announcement-style stuff; > > - Facebook pages require a user to "go" to a spot to make sure they see > all the new material (and even then The Algorithm tries hard to only show > you what it thinks you want) and then dig through nested comments to follow > a conversation; and don't even go into what happens when users have blocked > or unfollowed each other so that no one can actually see a whole thread; > > - other social media's interfaces tend to focus on the imagery (still or > video); > > - forums or bulletin-board-like setups require a user to "go" there, and > then typically sub-divide content to the point that conversations die out > because they get hopelessly specific > > And few systems are going to make it easy for folks to discuss something > for more than a few back-and-forth comments if they're coming in on a phone > or similar device. > > It comes down to what specific sort of conversation does one want, and on > what topic, and how do you want people to interact with it, what people, > how often, etc.? I think if one can try to nail down some of those > answers, then there's hope of creating a viable place for a particular > online (sub)-community to exist. > > I have a server which could run any number of things - would something > other than email be useful, here? > > Anne > >
