Brother Red1, timing is everything. We will not achieve anything in random
rants you know.

Don't spray all your bullets at random (also we need to get invited again
and again so we have more info). I am discussing with Hassan about some
possible agendas using the OSCC that we will discuss in the group here.
Just wanted to get some structure otherwise the con/skype call will be
messy. In Sales we have a saying (you are selling something), sales is a
process, when it is not a process, then it is a problem. We need to map an
action plan with doable milestones. Hope SIG members can take up components
of the tasks ahead so it doesn't end up on one person, sort of like a
gotong royong thing...

Some of my agenda that I have discussed with some of you:-

The Open Development Model in Government Procurement for software ie
projects evolve with OSS license and development process from the very
beginning. When actual tender comes out, marks will be given to based on
Vendors participation for initial phase. Winning vendor becomes major
project sponsor. Recruitment by vendor for developers is also easier as you
can see who are the main developers contributing to the project. Less
possibilities of lemons (Eg Kastam GST like last time)

The other one is software development on top of SELINUX for government
software (I am presenting to govt CIO this coming 10th) to move to more
serious stuff in OSS. If we can tie in with activity one of the above and
incorporate academic faculty members and students in the development we can
kill two, nay even three birds with one stone. The government can really be
a catalyst for our software industry by providing a fertile ground for some
serious software development through these projects.

More thoughts later (everyone else feel free to rant here) as I am rushing
to send my first draft to MAMPU...

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Redhuan <r...@adempiere.org> wrote:

> **
> I think we should brainstorm more often together (while blasting away on
> four pistons) as i do not think our pitch yesterday sinks in or far. It is
> better we make a proper presentation as a powerful think tank collectively,
> to the right office such as KSU and then PM, and collect momentos of 'skull
> tatoos' along the way.
> I like to share what a friend working somewhere up in KLCC Towers who
> wrote to me a moment ago:
>
> Nor Bahgia B M Nordin:
> "I think anything creative futuristic or game changing breakthrough
> spearheaded by government servants will fail due to their multiple KPI
> mentality, and other restrictions.
>
> Entreprenurs/Technopreneurs/Scientist have a ‘no-choice’  ‘do-or-die’
> situation, which drives them to do the impossible. It’s a intense single
> minded focus.
>
> Jobs, Gates, Page and the rest never wasted their time with the government
> types. They just went ahead and did what they were supposed to do
> regardless.
> I can tell you this. The road-maps will just collect dust again."
>
>
>
> On 7/31/12 9:35 AM, Abu Mansur wrote:
>
> Will need to you to run thru my presso. I didn't do any thesis on this...
> ;-)
>
> 2012/7/30 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <yeohe...@gmail.com>
>
>> How can I assist?
>>
>>
>> 2012/7/30 Abu Mansur <rajamu...@gmail.com>
>>
>>>  Gang FYI... :-)
>>>
>>> Mansur
>>>
>>
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