The article says Citrix "and open source".

Hands up who wants to run VS.NET over Citrix. WPF app development would be
*awesome*.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Mitch Denny <mitch.de...@readify.net>wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>
>
>
> You are probably right in the first instance. They definitely looking at
> virtualised desktops from the way that article reads, but then they have
> statements like this:
>
>
>
>                 There will be no restrictions -- products that ran on
> platforms by Microsoft, Apple, Google and others were all welcome, he said.
>
>
>
> Regardless, it’s a pretty gutsy move for a financial organisation which are
> generally quite conservative. So the general trend is interesting.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> *Mitch Denny
> *Readify | Chief Technology Officer
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> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 March 2011 9:52 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
>
> *Subject:* RE: [OT] BYO Computer @ Suncorp
>
>
>
> There’s no way that people are going to be able to use software installed
> on the laptop to do work. There’s no enterprise, especially a bank, that
> would allow such a thing (banks, especially, have regulatory requirements to
> meet).
>
>
>
> I’m going to strongly suspect that access to company apps will be via a VPN
> and thin client software. The VPN will inspect the machine and make sure
> it’s compliant with some baseline security policy (like having the company’s
> AV software installed) and then the thin client software (Citrix, whatever)
> will be used to publish the company’s apps.
>
>
>
> If you don’t bring your own laptop, you’ll get the company provided one. If
> you want to choose your own laptop because you prefer to have something
> faster, or with a bigger screen or what-have-you, then you’re welcome to
> bring that.
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Denny
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 March 2011 5:49 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Cc:* David Kean
> *Subject:* RE: [OT] BYO Computer @ Suncorp
>
>
>
> I must say that “I don’t care” what others are going to do, all I know is
> that I am way more productive with my home setup (four 1920x screens) with
> complete control over my environment. As a consultant it also makes things
> much easier, companies like Suncorp waste a lot of money going through their
> desktop provisioning process when they won’t let contractors and consultants
> drop their machines on their network.
>
>
>
> From a security point of view, it also encourages the IT department to be
> open in what they will support (extending the Internet into their
> environment) but being much more security conscious about sensitive systems.
> It might mean the end of the egg-shell defence.
>
>
>
> The whole who pays for it question is probably a separate one. Suncorp
> might be doing this to avoid paying for a laptop refresh, and possibly some
> licenses, but they need to be careful. For example, if you have a grad
> working there, and they are using Office Student edition to do work for
> Suncorp that could be a violation of the agreement.
>
>
>
> So the whole mechanics of software licensing is going to have to change as
> well. If I was a Microsoft Account Manager, or any other account manager I
> would be a little bit nervous because suddenly Suncorp doesn’t have as much
> buying power, which affects the ability to make one sale to heavily impacts
> quota. Their targets (if they are smart) are going to start to be built
> around applications, and server licenses, not the desktop.
>
>
>
> They should be lining up with vendors such as Dell and Lenovo to produce
> compelling offers inside Suncorp which include the hardware, os, and
> productivity suite.
>
>
>
> My 2c
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> *Mitch Denny
> *Readify | Chief Technology Officer
>
> Suite 408 Life.Lab Building | 198 Harbour Esplanade | Docklands | VIC 3008
> | Australia
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> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 March 2011 8:42 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Cc:* David Kean
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] BYO Computer @ Suncorp
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:05 AM, David Kean <david.k...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sounds like a justification for spending less money on work machines. I’m
> failing to see why this is a good thing.
>
>
>
> I'm with you. This is batshit crazy. Plus who the hell is going to bring
> their machine from home and join it to a domain or run VS.NET through
> citrix all day.
>
>
>
> Pass.
>
>
>
> Work buying you an awesome machine and allowing you to take it home for
> some personal use is a benefit - but buggered if I'd be interested in the
> other way around.
>
>
>
>
>



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