Oh, I wasn’t sure what the point of the iiNet invoice was.
I was more interested in what you were claiming about HFC/cable. One issue I have with cable is that the most productive members of the community using the Internet, the IT sector, have gradually, over the years, relocated themselves into high speed internet areas. The only high speed internet for the last 20 years has really been cable. So you’ve now got the people who can be the most economically productive with the internet constrained because their internet isn’t going to change. They can no longer get access to 1Gbps connections. Let’s be frank – from the IT sector’s point of view, it’s all about how fast we can transfer files around, whether they are content files, web sites, applications, databases, virtual machines, videos, or desktop or server backups, it doesn’t really matter. We just want them sent, and sent fast, and currently the time taken to do this takes so long that we end up copying large files to usb drives and delivering them ourselves, if we can’t wait a week for them to transfer. Another issue I have with cable is that the highest number of connections off a single cable is 32. You share your internet with 32 other customers and if they are large consumers of bandwidth, too bad for you – the capacity is constrained for that 32, and if you don’t like it, nothing is going to change it, you’re stuck with it. The alternative, fibre, doesn’t have this issue, because fibre is aggregated at the ISP. If there is too much contention, they can add another CVC pipe (and in Jon Dart’s email he says a CVC pipe could service a lot more than 3000 people in a large ISP). Another issue is that there is no upgrade path from cable to NBN. They spend all their time and money upgrading from DocSis 3.0 to 3.1 and they’re not going to want to come back. Anyone who is in the cable area is no longer going to have a node box at the end of the street. So the promise made before the election that you could pay $3000 to connect up to the full NBN is now gone. People in the cable areas have no ability to access 1Gbps internet and will not have for 20 years. I am 150 metres from the NBN and will no longer be able to pay for a connection because I am in a cable area. If the world moves to even faster internet, which is possible given the 10Gbps trials are still in progress in the UK, then we won’t be able to move to the higher speed. The Liberal NBN is simple not (small “a”) agile. Which for the money spent is a shocker. So the bottom line is, that’s why HFC sucks. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 12:04 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: NBN Petition On 16 December 2013 22:33, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com <mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com> > wrote: No, the fact that you went completely out of your way to shoot down the Labor NBN without a single critical word of the Liberal plan is what makes you partisan. Pretty sure I was critical of CVC charges, which inherently was a labor plan to keep it off the budget - which doesn't automatically make me a liberal shill, btw. By the way, I got an email from Jon Dart suggesting that CVC is still in. Yeah figured from the strategic review. So disappoint. The Libs talked about it greatly before the election and aligned themselves with the industry consensus. Then it isn't mentioned in the review. They get a F- in my books as a result - then again I said the whole plan from either party was shit from the get go. He also made the statement “it is assumed that instead of decommissioning the HFC networks, Telstra and/or Optus would transfer ownership of the network. They’re going to hand over the networks for no cost apparently. And $4 billion dollars to upgrade the system to FTTP in 13 years. Hmmm, believable. Not. I have no idea in that regard and have to wait until a deal is done as we're well into the territory of guessing. Previously T and Optus were going to give up 100% of their IP related HFC revenue under the existing agreements. I *doubt* they give a shit if NBN Co tries to do a few fibre drops down a street to lower end user contention (at the last mile, while leaving massive contention at the network core lulz). The Commonwealth can't reneg on the existing commitments, but they can certainly drag their feet and make life damned hard for the telcos. I suspect they will want settlement under existing terms as expeditiously as possibly for the sake of their shareholders/continued employment. We will see what happens. Either way, I'm nonplussed. BTW, bonus points for the nice dodge on my last post about iiNets likely invoices from NBN Co. As Ken says, it is kind of like climate change when you think about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo No, really. David.
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