Yes, an excellent point regarding Bluetooth and the iPhone with Voiceover and 
having Voiceover play with your music is quite a pain, that’s one of the 
annoyances I had when I had the Apple TV 2nd Generation, Voiceover would 
announce each new track as it played and the only way I knew of to stop that 
happening was to go into the menu system, turn Voiceover off and hope I’d 
remember to turn Voiceover back on again when I’d finished playing my music.
I didn’t think one could play to multi rooms or multiple devices using AirPlay 
on an iOS device?
And whilst we’re on the subject of AirPlay, congratulations to Spotify as 
they’ve found a way around Apple’s reluctance to allow third party Apps to put 
the AirPlay Icon near the volume control where it used to be in Apps, there’s a 
“Button” at the bottom of the Spotify App which isn’t labeled.
Double-tap on this and you’ll see a list of Spotify Connect devices if you have 
any but even more importantly you’ll see a “More Devices” icon, double-tap this 
and you’ll be presented with a list of AirPlay and Bluetooth devices Spotify 
can connect to.

> On 5 Oct. 2016, at 2:32 am, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> For anyone using an Apple device, there are some Stansel advantages to using 
> airplay. For one thing, VoiceOver stays on your device and doesn't interfere 
> with the music. For another, you can have multiple rooms playing from one 
> Mac. Of course you have to have airport expresses. But it still beats 
> Bluetooth for sound as far as I'm concerned. And not having VoiceOver 
> interfering with my music is a huge advantage. And it's also less laggy 
> Bluetooth. I have to disagree with John on that one. Trying to use my android 
> device when I'm playing music through my mega boom speakers is not fun. Plus, 
> I have a stereo downstairs. If I were stuck using Bluetooth, my Mac wouldn't 
> reach there. And if I left my eye device upstairs and went downstairs for 
> something, I'd be out of luck if I wanted to use that downstairs stereo. 
> Bluetooth won't go that far.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:50 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you pretty much summed it up and I’ll get to that in a moment.
>> I’ve not heard of the speaker you mentioned but I do know of something that 
>> sounds similar, the new Bowers And Wilkins Zeplin wireless which has 
>> Bluetooth and Airplay facilities as well as Spotify Connect.
>> Unfortunately Bowers And Wilkins have seen fit not to give the Zeplin Air 
>> DLNA connectivity, perhaps the thinking at B&W is that DLNA isn’t as good as 
>> AirPlay.
>> Now that Bluetooth AptX is in use widely I just don’t see a future for 
>> AirPlay and the “Lag” exhibited by AirPlay is perhaps the most telling point 
>> in this discussion, absolutely no good for wireless headphones for example.
>> 
>>> On 4 Oct. 2016, at 5:37 pm, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've got a speaker in my loft called a Stealth Air 2 which has both Airplay
>>> and Bluetooth with a rather nifty little remote that lets you select either.
>>> I use Bluetooth every time. Less laggy for one thing.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sent: 03 October 2016 12:37
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay
>>> 
>>> Hmm.. interesting point however take a look around you and count just how
>>> many AirPlayed enabled devices there are now compared to a few years ago?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3/10/2016 5:32 PM, John Gurd wrote:
>>>> Surely Apple wouldn't invent a whole system of Airplaying audio using 
>>>> a method different from anyone else to thousands of appliances 
>>>> designed just for it and depended upon by millions of people just to 
>>>> get rid of it? No, that doesn't sound like Apple! (Grin)
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: 03 October 2016 04:15
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay
>>>> 
>>>> Still there yes but I'm given to wondering just how long for?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/10/2016 1:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>>> Well, they don't exactly advertise it, nor is it well labeled. At 
>>>>> least it
>>>> is still there.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Dane Trethowan 
>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Okay thanks for that, I found the iPhone icon in the Control center, 
>>>>>> it
>>>> was where you said on page two, would never have known about it had 
>>>> you not mentioned it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> **********
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive 
>>>>>> outlooks
>>>> are the solution.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3 Oct. 2016, at 7:06 am, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You can still get to the audio airplay in control center, although 
>>>>>>> you
>>>> might not know it because it's in adequately labeled. If you go to 
>>>> "page 2, in your control center view, by doing the iOS page change 
>>>> three finger flick, one of the things you will see in there with other 
>>>> music controls is the announcement iPhone, assuming you were using an 
>>>> iPhone. Or it might say iPad, if you're using an iPad. Double tap on 
>>>> that, and you will see all the choices of whatever other airplay and 
>>>> able audio devices you have. This is true for the Amazon music app and 
>>>> the Apple Music app. I assume it's true in general, although those are 
>>>> the only two I tried. Frankly, I like the option of having the air 
>>>> play control it within the app. That's how it used to be before they moved
>>> it to control center. And I wish they would put it back.
>>>> Or at least wish they would have the flexibility for app developers to 
>>>> include that airplay functionality right in the main screen of the 
>>>> app. That was the most convenient I thought.
>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Dane Trethowan 
>>>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Has anyone bothered to use IOS 10 with AirPlay?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if you've noticed what I have if you go into the 
>>>>>>>> control
>>>> center and activate AirPlay from there.
>>>>>>>> On my iPhone I only see the option to Mirror to an Apple TV - 
>>>>>>>> which I
>>>> don't have at the moment - and I don't see an option to stream audio 
>>>> to any other compatible device.
>>>>>>>> The only way I know of to get around this is to go into the Music 
>>>>>>>> App,
>>>> launch the mini player view and select an AirPlay device from there, a 
>>>> little annoying to have to perform that extra step but at least I can 
>>>> still select my AirPlay device of choice in a roundabout way it has to be
>>> said.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> **********
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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