Everything we think we know is just a sea urchin dreaming.

B

> On 30 Oct 2015, at 12:53, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it must be a 
> sentient being since it's an animal. 
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <danmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> "How can you tell is a person is a vegetarian?
>> You don't have to.  They will be sure to tell you."
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:22 AM, knarf <knarftheria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Veganism really isn't hard to understand. I don't feel the need to defend 
>>> or explain it here, but it's got a lot to do with alleviating cruelty and 
>>> exploitation of sentient, feeling beings.
>>> 
>>> I guess it's about where you draw the line.
>>> 
>>> No one normal would eat other humans. Lots wouldn't consider eating cats, 
>>> dogs or other domesticated household pets. Great apes and other primates 
>>> are pretty much off limits, too.
>>> 
>>> I'm of the view that if one wouldn't eat a dog because it's cruel, it must 
>>> be equally cruel to kill and eat a sensitive, intelligent, socially 
>>> advanced animal like a pig. If "no" for pigs, how can you say yes for cows, 
>>> fish or anything else that feels pain?
>>> 
>>> So I draw the line at sentience. Yes, I know it can be a blurred line in 
>>> some cases but I feel fairly comfortable saying yes to plants and no to 
>>> animals of all sorts. It's really easy to remember. And easy to understand, 
>>> at least for me.
>>> 
>>> There are way more reasons to be vegan but I'll leave it at that for now.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> frank
>>> 
>>>> On October 29, 2015 8:26:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>>>> <danmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf <knarftheria...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Nice photo anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Frank.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you
>>>> don't need my understanding or approval.
>>>> At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit.  <G>
>>>> 
>>>> Dan Matyola
>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> 
>>> 

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