For many years I owned a 635cc motor scooter (Suzuki Bergman) with CVT. Wonderful smooth acceleration from zero to whatever. Never a problem with it.
stan > On Jul 18, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Igor PDML-StR <pdml...@komkon.org> wrote: > > > > IMHO, those emulated steps on top of the CVT are ludicrous. > One of the biggest advantages (and the reasons why CVT was invented in the > first place) is the stepless, smooth transmission. > So, this "emulation" is undoing the benefit. > And I know that Nissan and Honda (and a few others) are doing that horrendous > stupidity to satisfy people who need to be jolted every time they accelerate. > The worst part is that you cannot disable that stupid emulation. (That should > be very simple - that's a computer program.) > > I actually enjoy the smoothness I had from the CVT in Nissan Rogue, except > for the problems, which include the higher-pitched "whining" sound. > > And yes, I enjoy the manual transmission too, which I've had for many years, > but now I am giving up on that, as that requirement complicates > things: 1) the choice of cars is narrowed significantly and 2) the logistics > more complicated when my wife's car needs to be serviced, or whatever... > > > Anyway... > > Igor > > > > Mon Jul 17 11:34:56 EDT 2017 P. J. Alling wrote: > > That's simply because most drivers are used to automatic transmissions > with discrete gears. I don't prefer either, given a choice I'd take a > manual transmission any day. I'd also like to mention the fact that > with the current generation of car thieves a manual transmission is an > unintended anti theft device. > > > On 7/17/2017 9:59 AM, Ken Waller wrote: >> That constant acceleration - lack of shift feel is subjectively seen by > some drivers as a negative, so much that some manufacturers have added a > shift feel to their CVT transmissions so as to eliminate the constant > acceleration feel. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Zos Xavius <zosxavius at gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru >>> >>> My mom has a CVT Nissan Sentra. Its pretty peppy between 0 and 80. >>> What's nice is that once it starts accelerating it doesn't stop. Just >>> smooth acceleration until you take your foot off the pedal. >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:04 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenquist at > mac.com> wrote: >>>> I'd be worried about CVT durability, but for me, the main drawback is > the driving feel. My 2014 Equinox has an 8-speed automatic, it feels great > with a peppy 3- liter four, and has been trouble free. Nothing but oil > changed thus far. >>>> >>>> Paul via phone >>>> >>>>> On Jul 16, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Mark C <pdml-mark at charter.net> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Igor - >>>>> >>>>> I'm certainly happy with Subaru's decision to extend the warranty on > their CVT's and to provide retroactive compensation. I don't expect to be > using the money for a new lens. I'm pretty happy with the lenses I have - > turns out that hanging onto good full frame glass was not a mistake The only > lens that I am tempted to replace is the FA 20-35 f4, but I can't get a good > handle on its performance on the K1. Sometimes it shines, sometimes it's a > dud. It's clearly better (marginally) on film than on the K1 in terms of edge > and corner sharpness. It also seems to be better at the long end than at > 20mm. I recently fine-tuned the AF - and it needed about 5 steps of > correction IIRC - so I'm hoping that helps. But I seldom shoot wider than > 28mm so I don't feel too motivated to upgrade to the DFA 15-30. >>>>> >>>>> I suspect that the reimbursement from Subaru will go into the VW > repair fund. My wife's 2009 Tiguan seems to develop a $500 - $1000 problem > every 10K or so. In the past year and a half we've replaced the timing chain, > PCV system, rear main seal (blew out when the PCV system failed) and water > pump. Last Thursday the dealership told me that both rear springs are broken > - I need to get that checked out by an independent mechanic. Seems odd that > both springs would break at the same time and that the car would still ride > just fine. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck with your car search. CVT's are a fact o life these days > but they seem to be prone to funky and fatal errors. I would do serious > research on any CVT vehicle. >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> Igor PDML-StR wrote: >>>>>> Hi Mark, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was just thinking about you and your Subaru CVT a few time in the > past week. (We are looking for a car right now.) >>>>>> >>>>>> I am glad to hear that good news. I'd say that's probably an > indicator of Subaru being one of the better manufacturers (behavior-wise). > (Even though they should've admitted their problems much earlier.) And your > local dealership is also among the better once since they've covered 50% even > before this event. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nissan gave us all sort of problems with our CVT (on Rogue) over the > past 9 year, starting from the 1st year. And both, our dealership and the > corporate office were very bad to address these problems. They were refusing > to admit the problems despite the symptoms, until the transmission failed > completely. And for the 2nd time, they were delaying admitting the problem it > until the mileage was beyond the limit. >>>>>> >>>>>> After almost 20 years of owning Nissans (not exclusively), I am too > afraid to buy any Nissan at this point: all models I would be potentially > interested in have CVTs, and Nissan CVTs are plagued with problems, and > Nissan is bad addressing them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Speaking of "impressive" warranties (mentioned by Alan), - I've just > learned that the "best industry warranty" advertised by Hyundai is to a large > extent a gimmick: Only the 1st owner is eligible for the 10 yrs/100k miles > (powertrain) warranty, for the subsequent owners it is 5yrs/60K. >>>>>> (Additionally, there is practically no "bumper-to-bumper", large > portion of the coverage of the "limited" warranty ends within the 1st year.) >>>>>> Kia's "industry-best" warranty is a similar gimmick. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, - I am glad Mark for you. Despite the headache, at least you > didn't suffer as much of the financial hit... >>>>>> >>>>>> And the most intriguing question (for this list): >>>>>> Are you going to buy some new lens with the unexpected ~$4K? >>>>>> ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Igor >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark C Sat, 15 Jul 2017 20:46:26 -0700 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Just over a year ago I posted about the failure of my Subaru CVT > transmission, and appreciated the advice I got here. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yesterday I received a notice from Subaru that they have > retroactively extended the warranty on the CVT's to 10 years / 100K. The > letter included a claim form to get reimbursement for out of pocket repair > costs for those of us who had their CVT fail. Subaru picked up 50% of the > cost to replace my transmission but I was still out of pocket about $4000 - > good on Subaru to step and cover this problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
