On June 2, 2019 7:03:26 AM PDT, "Jostein Øksne" <p...@alunfoto.no> wrote:
>We seem to be in violent agreement, Dan. I just adviced Larry to be 
>candid about presenting his photos, that's all.

What definition of candid are you using? I am being open and honest about them. 


>
>Another funny comparison between countries could be perspectives on 
>photographing nudity, but we've opened that can of worms enough times 
>already, haven't we. :-)
>
>Jostein
>
>Den 02.06.2019 14:35, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:
>> Jostein, the way Larry has set things up does not seem to be
>bothering the
>> birds or interfering with their natural behavior.
>> As he points out, they keep returning to that spot year after year.
>>
>> I had some sparrows build a nest under one of the eaves of our house,
>on
>> top of a floodlight.  Unfortunately, the position made it impossible
>to
>> look into the nest, or even attempt a photograph, without getting up
>on a
>> ladder right next to it, which I would never consider doing.
>>
>> BTW, at almost all of the eagle cams, the naturalists go in to tag
>the
>> nestlings, before they are able to fly away.  It is interesting to
>learn
>> that some of our local chick from here in New Jersey found their way
>up to
>> New England.  Raptor protection groups claim to gather important
>> information about the birds from studying both the nests and the
>later
>> travels of the birds.
>>
>> My reference to whales goes back to when I visited you in Oslo, many
>years
>> ago.  Among many other things, we discussed the Nordic and America
>views on
>> Wale conservation.  You pointed out the importance of the wales in
>the
>> Scandinavia cultures, and I remarked that even in the US we recognize
>the
>> native cultural needs of the Northwest Alaskan peoples, who are for
>the
>> most part exempt from the bans on hunting and eating wales.
>>
>> On our first trip to Hawai'i, back in the 1980s, my son was
>> enthusiastically looking forward to riding jet skis in the pacific. 
>Short
>> visits to the Sierra Club and the Pacific Wale Foundation put a quick
>end
>> to that, and converted him to an avid conservationist.  Maui has a
>lot of
>> coast watchers, who sit on the lanais (balconies) of their condos
>peering
>> through binoculars hour after hour, and reporting any boats who
>approach
>> the wales too closely.  The wales their are most sensitive, as there
>are
>> many newborn calves.  There is nothing near Maui for the wales to
>eat, so
>> they fast from the time they leave the Alaskan waters, 3,000 miles
>away,
>> until they return months later.  Like many mainland tourists, all
>they do
>> during their Hawai'ian vacation is breed, give birth, and teach the
>young
>> to swim.
>>
>> Yes, the "Russian spy" beluga received extensive coverage in the US.
>> Belugas are among the most frequently mistreated of marine animals,
>because
>> their size, intelligence and friendliness makes them easy to exploit.
> The
>> recent NatGeo article on animal tourism covers that (and other
>travesties).
>>
>> Sea World and similar operations are quite controversial today. 
>Under
>> great public pressure, Sea World ended its Orca breeding program, and
>has
>> promised to phase out the "Shamu" type circuses.  We will see.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 7:26 AM Jostein Øksne <p...@alunfoto.no>
>wrote:
>>
>>> Nest cameras are a different kettle of fish, Dan. They are automated
>and
>>> can be set up before the birds settle in. Especially with the large
>>> birds of prey which conveniently return to the same nest year after
>>> year. It is the photographer's presence by the nest that cause the
>>> disturbance more than the picture-taking itself.
>>>
>>> It seems that the same rules of engagement, if one can call it that,
>is
>>> recommended by some concerned parties in the USA too. Have a look:
>>> https://nestwatch.org/connect/news/nest-photography-guidelines/
>>>
>>> Interesting comparison to whales. Bit of a paradox with Sea World,
>isn't
>>> it?
>>>
>>> Btw, did you read about the "tame" beluga whale with a harness that
>>> showed up on Norwegian shores this winter? It was clearly seeking
>>> contact and being very accustomed to taking food from human hands.
>Rumor
>>> has it that Russians have a programme to train belugas for
>underwater
>>> recon and scooping up mines, among other things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>https://www.dw.com/en/mystery-whale-found-near-norway-fuels-russian-navy-speculation/a-48536688
>>>
>>> There's some added photography relevance there in that Audun
>Rikardsen,
>>> the professor quoted in the article is himself a champion of the BBC
>>> Nature Photo Contest a few years ago.
>>>
>>> Jostein
>>>
>>>

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