When I go to the donation page and attempt to make a donation, the
drop-down box does not give DBI as a valid recipient.  Is it possible
several people may not have donated as they noticed the same results, or
maybe they did and it all went into the Perl Development Fund instead?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Bunce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:06 PM
> To: perl6-language@perl.org; dbi-users@perl.org
> Subject: DBI v2 - The Plan and How You Can Help
> 
> 
> Once upon a time I said:
> 
>   
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/perl.dbi.users/msg/caf189d
> 7b404a003?dmode=source&hl=en
> 
> and wrote
> 
>   http://search.cpan.org/~timb/DBI/Roadmap.pod
> 
> which yielded:
> 
>   
> https://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=Fund+Drive+Det
> ails&selfund=102
> 
> (A little over $500 of that I effectively put in myself.)
> 
> My *sincere* thanks to all those who donated to the fund, especially
> individuals. I had hoped for more corporate response with less from
> individuals and I'm touched by the personal generosity shown.
> 
> I've not drawn any money from it yet and doubt that I will myself.
> (I'm considering suggesting that the Perl Foundation make payments
> from the fund to people making specific contributions to the DBI.
> I'm thinking especially of work on a comprehensive test harness.
> But I'll see how the developments below pan out before making
> specific arrangements.)
> 
> 
> So, that lead to:
> 
>   
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/perl.dbi.dev/browse_frm/th
> read/ef14a9fc0a37441f/fb8fe20a86723da0#fb8fe20a86723da0
> 
> Which sums up fairly well where I'm at: DBI v1 will rumble on 
> for Perl 5
> and DBI v2 will be implemented for Perl 6.
> 
> 
> --- digression ---
> 
> At this point I'd like to make a slight digression to highlight the
> amazing work going on in the Perl 6 community at the moment.
> Especially Autrijus' Pugs project which has brought Perl 6 to life.
> Literally. Take a look at:
> 
>       http://pugscode.org/talks/yapc/slide1.html
>       http://use.perl.org/~autrijus/journal
> 
> and especially:
> 
>       http://use.perl.org/~autrijus/journal/24898
> 
> Yes, that really is Perl 6 code using the DBI being executed by Pugs.
> 
> That's great, and I was truly delighted to see it because it takes the
> pressure off the need to get a DBI working for Perl 6 - because it
> already is working for Perl 6. At least for Pugs. (The Ponie project
> is also likely to provide access to Perl 5 DBI from Perl 6 by enabling
> future versions of Perl 5 to run on Parrot.)
> 
> --- digression ---
> 
> 
> I have recently come to an arrangement that will enable me to put some
> worthwhile development time into DBI (still very much part-time, but
> enough to give it focus and move forward).
> 
> My initial goals are:
> 
>  1. to work on a more detailed specification for the DBI v2 API that
>     takes advantage of appropriate features of Perl 6.
> 
>  2. to work on a more detailed specification for the DBDI API
>     
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/msg/c
> fcbd9ca7ee6ab4
> 
>  3. to work on tools to automate building Parrot NCI interfaces to
>     libraries (such as database client libraries, obviously :)
> 
> 
> But I'm hoping you'll join in and help out.
> 
> I've kept an eye on Perl 6 and Parrot developments but I'm no 
> expert in
> either. What I'd like *you* to do is make proposals (ideally fairly
> detailed proposals, but vague ideas are okay) for what a Perl 
> 6 DBI API
> should look like.
> 
> Keep in mind that the role of the DBI is to provide a consistent
> interface to databases at a fairly low level. To provide a 
> *foundation*
> upon which higher level interfaces (such as Class::DBI, 
> Tangram, Alzabo
> etc. in Perl 5) can be built.
> 
> So, if you have an interest in the DBI and Perl 6, put your thinking
> cap on, kick back and dream a little dream of how the DBI could be.
> How to make best use of the new features in Perl 6 to make 
> life easier.
> 
> Then jot down the details and email them to me (or to 
> dbi-users@perl.org
> if you want to kick them around in public for a while first).
> 
> I'm about to fly off for two weeks vacation (in a few hours), 
> blissfully
> absent of any hi-tech gear beyond a mobile phone. When I get back I'll
> gather up your emails and try to distill them into a coherent whole.
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> Tim.
> 

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