I appreciate all of the ideas and help. These are exactly the issues that I was
contemplating on how to make it look right. I even thought of cutting rivets in
half, JB welding the part to the horn and then JB welding each half of the
rivets back in. Once it was painted, you would not be able to tell the diff.
Using old fashioned rivets is not easy, since you need something solid to
round them over inside the horn. I may just try to repair the damage to the
existing part first. I try to think of all of the issues before I begin any
repair.
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:59:34 -0800
> From: smst...@gmail.com
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder"
>
> Is it really so bad the rivets must come out? Even if the metal is split
> I'll bet you could close it up. This sounds like one of those jobs you wish
> you left alone. Rivet drilling can go wrong in a heartbeat. If you can drill
> the outside head with a matching bit ( a little smaller that the rivet head)
> but do not drill thru'. Be very careful.
>
> Just thin the rivet. Next with a smaller bit drill thru' the center but not
> through the rivet. Take a punch and gently tap it out. The rivet head should
> break apart at the shank when you tap it. If not thin the head out more so.
> Small brass rivets will be your best bet. I'd use nuts and bolts over pop
> rivets.You might give thought if you use brass rivets to drill the shank
> with a small bit. That way when you set them the rivet should give with less
> force.
>
> If you use nuts and bolts use brass. File the nuts down very thin and even
> file them round. Cut the screws just long enough so when you bolt it
> together the screw should not extend past the thin nut. Using brass you can
> fill the slotted head in with solder. Either use rub n buff or just black
> model paint. It is un-doable if need be and will look better than you think.
> Mike Stitt
>
> Good luck.
> Mike Stitt
>
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Ron L'Herault <lhera...@bu.edu> wrote:
>
> > It was probably a riveting tool with a long reach. You could pop rivet
> > them
> > but that would not look quite right from the inside. Anyone else know more
> > about riveting?
> >
> > Ron L
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Vinyl Visions
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:58 PM
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder"
> >
> >
> > I've been afraid to remove the rivets, since I don't know what method they
> > used originally to put the rivets in without distorting the horn... any
> > ideas?
> >
> > > From: lhera...@bu.edu
> > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:00:17 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder"
> > >
> > > Have you tried drilling out the rivets and taking the part to a musical
> > > Instrument repair shop? They may be able to straighten it out. Then you
> > > can rivet it back on.
> > >
> > > Ron L
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Vinyl Visions
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:30 AM
> > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > > Subject: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn "Ball Holder"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know what you call it exactly, but does anyone sell replacements
> > > for the brass ball holder that is riveted to a cygnet horn? If so, how do
> > > you go about replacing it? Mine was torn up by someone trying to replace
> > the
> > > ball.
> > >
> > > Curt
> > >
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