An update on the Grand:  I didn't end up getting it; the price was too high, 
and I was a put off by the fact that the record filing system was completely 
gone.  It was strange, actually -- there were no vertical wooden slats in the 
storage compartment, just two horizontal shelves.  I couldn't figure how it 
could have accommodated the folders.  The tone arm was metal (gold-plated), and 
the cabinet was oak; in doing research, I found lots of photos online of the 
Grand in oak, but none in mahogany.  Has anyone ever seen one?  And did Sonora 
make tone arms in oak, too, or was metal the only option if you got an oak 
cabinet?  

> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:56:11 +0000
> From: bruce78...@comcast.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora?
> 
> The wood tone arms occasionally show up for sale on ebay. But the hardest 
> part of that to find is a the wooden base. I spotted one on line a few years 
> ago, and inquired of the seller if he happened to have the base as well. He 
> did. So I converted the metal tone are Elite to one with a wooden Town arm, 
> with the two reproducers (for vertical and lateral records). 
> 
> Bruce 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Stan Stanford" <s...@clarphon.com> 
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:04:26 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora? 
> 
> The Elite is the 5th model down with the Supreme being No. 1. As Bob 
> said, wooden tone arms could be on several of the top models including 
> yours, but all except the Supreme, could have metal tone arms. I have a 
> Supreme and it came with 2 wooden tone arms with different reproducers: one 
> for lateral and the other for vertical cut records. Yes, the complete tone 
> arm on my Supreme is easily removable. 
> 
> Stan 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On 
> Behalf Of Richard 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:40 PM 
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora? 
> 
> Thanks, Stan. I have a mahogany Sonora Elite, with a wooden tone arm. 
> Would that model have been a level (or two) below this one, then? 
> 
> > From: s...@clarphon.com 
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
> > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 17:48:24 -0700 
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora? 
> > 
> > I think this is the Grand..............at least the grill looks like the 
> > grill on the Grand from a Catalogue that I have. So it's the third one 
> > down after the Supreme and Invincible. Stan Stanford 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org 
> > [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Richard 
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:29 PM 
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora? 
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me which model of Sonora phonograph this is? It looks 
> > to be one of their higher-end bombe machines, but I've always had 
> > trouble identifying particular Sonora models. If it is a higher-end 
> > machine, should I be surprised that it doesn't have a wooden tone arm? 
> > (Do those wooden tone arms really sound better, for that matter?) And 
> > am I the only one who's never seen a Sonora in oak before? It seems to 
> > me every one I've ever seen has been mahogany. Thoughts?Oh, and if 
> > anyone has one of these and would like to share photos of it, I'd 
> > appreciate it; I'm especially curious about what it's supposed to look 
> like with the doors open. 
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