An great thorough reply! If I cared enough to undertake all this, I'd do
exactly what you suggested. Fortunately I have more curiosity than concern
😜 & PLUG has adequately appeased my curiosity.

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 17:45 Russell Senior <russ...@personaltelco.net>
wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 5:18 PM mo <mowgli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How do I gather more data?
> >
>
> Get between your phone and whatsapp servers and run tcpdump -s0 -w
> /tmp/capture.pcap -i $LANIFACE ether host $PHONEMACADDR, where $LANIFACE is
> your router's interface closer to the phone and $PHONEMACADDR is the MAC
> address that the phone is using on your network. Note that modern phone
> operating systems randomize the MAC address they use on each wifi network
> for the sake of privacy. You'll have to figure out what it is using either
> by looking in the phone or by looking at the DHCP lease your router
> provided. Then, let it run for as long as it takes to send your whatsapp
> message, but minimize other traffic on the phone, because the tcpdump will
> need to copy/store everything to and from the device. Then copy the
> /tmp/capture.pcap to a real computer and run wireshark on it, e.g.:
> wireshark capture.pcap
>
> And then stare at wireshare until it makes sense. The payloads of the
> messages will be encrypted, but the envelopes/headers and their timing
> should provide information.
>
> That's how I would do approach the problem.
>
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 16:09 Russell Senior <russ...@personaltelco.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It could be some weird DNS or maybe even ipv6 related timeout problem.
> > Wild
> > > added guessing. More data means less guessing.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Russell Senior
> > > russ...@personaltelco.net
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 14:13 Tomas Kuchta <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 06:02 Russell Senior <
> russ...@personaltelco.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If you manage your own gateway, using OpenWrt for example, you
> could
> > > put
> > > > > your own diagnostic tools (like tcpdump) on that gateway and, for
> > > > example,
> > > > > capture the transactions from your phone to whatsapp servers. If
> you
> > > > don't
> > > > > manage your own gateway, then you might be stuck asking
> > > > CenturyLink/Quantum
> > > > > what's going on.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not a whatsapp user, so I don't have any personal insight.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Russell Senior
> > > > > russ...@personaltelco.net
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 10:43 PM mo <mowgli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi. I've Quantum fiber. It has latency issues with WhatsApp. Any
> > idea
> > > > > why &
> > > > > > how to resolve this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've no other issues with them. Using the WiFi. All other sites
> > apps
> > > > etc
> > > > > > have no noticeable latency. WhatsApp takes minutes to send a
> > message
> > > &
> > > > > > receives messages minutes after someone sends. However if I turn
> of
> > > > WiFi
> > > > > &
> > > > > > switch to cellular data (TMO) it immediately sends & receives the
> > > > > > backlogged messages. The latency can be up to 10 min sometimes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Minutes difference is unlikely to be network related. Unless, of
> > course,
> > > a
> > > > three letter agency?
> > > >
> > > > It may be that the cell phone app update events are more timely when
> it
> > > can
> > > > see the celular network than with WiFi.
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2¢,
> > > > T
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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