Bc I need the redundancy for my tenants & for me. It's cheap too. Quantum
fiber $70, TMO Internet $25. Granted in India I get 1gb fiber for $5.

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024, 23:51 Ted Mittelstaedt <t...@portlandia-it.com> wrote:

> Wow, I have a static IP subnet at home and I thought I was being screwed
> over with the money but even I cannot afford TWO ISP's at home!!  Why don't
> you dump the one you are having problems with and save a bundle!
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PLUG <plug-boun...@lists.pdxlinux.org> On Behalf Of mo
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 8:14 AM
> To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <plug@lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Quantum fiber WhatsApp latency issue
>
> I would agree with you except that when I switch over to my other WiFi (I
> have 2 different ISPs here) WhatsApp has no latency. Also no other app
> (signal gv etc) have latency on either ISP. It's only WhatsApp when using
> quantum fiber. Also it's not consistent; sometimes it's immediate for half
> day while sometimes it's 2-10 min latency for half day.
>
> But you are correct, no latency ever on either ISP for WhatsApp calls. It
> is only for messages. Overall, your push notifications explanation makes
> sense. & I can live with this latency too; idc, nothing anyone sends or
> shares is worth the immediacy humans think they merit. 😂
>
> But what conspiracy theories? I am ok being Meta's product in exchange for
> this free service. All these ppl running around complaining about that but
> still using all this social media crap are humorous hypocrisy at best.
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 23:47 Ted Mittelstaedt <t...@portlandia-it.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This is because of a fundamental misunderstanding of how cell phone
> > apps like whazzupapp work.
> >
> > I would bet money you are NOT seeing this "latency" when you make a
> > phone call from your whatsapp to another whatsapp on some other cell
> > phone.  It's only when you are sending instant messages.
> >
> > Let me explain what's likely going on here.
> >
> > The whatsapp app likely uses push notification.  What that means is
> > when your phone is on your cellular data network the app registers
> > into the cell tower.  Then goes to sleep.  When a text comes to you,
> > the tower sends out a push notification that wakes up the whatsapp app
> > on your phone and you get the text.
> >
> > This allows minimal battery usage on your phone.
> >
> > Here's a dumbed-down explanation of push
> >
> > https://www.airship.com/resources/explainer/push-notifications-explain
> > ed/
> >
> > Anyway, the whatsapp almost certainly has push turned OFF when the
> > phone is on a wifi data network because they have to pay the mobile
> > carriers for push access.  In that case the app is polling the server
> > over the internet.  Likely once every 10 minutes.  Otherwise their
> > server would melt down if it polled every second.
> >
> > There have been complaints on "latency" on this app for over a decade.
> > Here's a typical one:
> >
> >
> > https://xdaforums.com/t/whatsapp-messages-delayed-only-on-my-home-wifi
> > .1941623/
> >
> > There ain't nuthin wrong with anything here.  The app is working as
> > it's designed to work.
> >
> > If you live in the US of A, a free country with privacy rights then
> > set aside your conspiracy theories and toss whatsapp in the garbage.
> >
> > If you live in China, my condolences you are stuck with this behavior.
> > But at least the men in black won't be breaking down your door in the
> > middle of the night.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PLUG <plug-boun...@lists.pdxlinux.org> On Behalf Of mo
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 10:43 PM
> > To: plug@lists.pdxlinux.org
> > Subject: [PLUG] Quantum fiber WhatsApp latency issue
> >
> > Hi. I've Quantum fiber. It has latency issues with WhatsApp. Any idea
> > why & how to resolve this?
> >
> > I've no other issues with them. Using the WiFi. All other sites apps
> > etc have no noticeable latency. WhatsApp takes minutes to send a
> > message & receives messages minutes after someone sends. However if I
> > turn of WiFi & switch to cellular data (TMO) it immediately sends &
> > receives the backlogged messages. The latency can be up to 10 min
> sometimes.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> >
>
>

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