Sorry, this couldn't be done using sourceforge.
I think to remove stuff is like to remove entries from a blog. It's just
a history of stuff even if is not of a style we all like.
Have you ever thought about, if it could be you, who just forces such
posts, with your style of posting? Why are always the others are the bad
guys?
Sebastian
Kent Olsson schrieb:
Sebastian!
If some decency exists, remove the response below from the list. I have
never before seen attitudes like this in the open source project I have
been involved with.
Kent
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 13:02 +0200, Jens Lautenbacher wrote:
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 21:08 +0100, Kent Olsson wrote:
Hej!
Beside javascript there are other technologies for RIA.
There are about 30 different libraries out there.
Have you ever done a comparision?
We did a comparison internally, but no one was better than Qooxdoo for
the purpose of real web application development (RIA). It has a better
design and is faster than most of them. Most of the ideas are close to
how Java has been designed. In some cases it is better designed. One
negative thing is that Sebastian has opened up the software, but not as
much as it deserves. It slows development too much. It must be changed
in some or the other way, else dedicated and brave developers will
choose other libraries to support and contribute.
Kent,
your constant whining really starts to annoy the hell out of me.
Especially when you take every possible opportunity to tell rubbish
about the way "Sebastian handles the project".
The problem is not that it's simply wrong what you are telling, but that
other observers may get some distorted view of reality. Have you ever
heard something about the little thing called "netiquette"?
To make things clear: This project is released under the LGPL, and every
capable developer is invited to contribute. But this doesn't mean that
we simply stop thinking about what people put into the code base. The
quality of the code and the way it fits with the overall design plan
counts. Making contributions is a little bit more than telling people
what doesn't work and at best coming forward with half-baked patches -
and in any case reiterating the plain wrong over and over again doesn't
help either.
The project is also not "run by Sebastian alone". It's just that he is
the one who is currently the most visible guy on the mailing list. This
doesn't mean that others don't work hard, too.
For all the stuff that has been done, we know that there is still much
to do - but hey - this is OSS. People CAN make a difference by writing
code and engage in technical discussions, they can (and some already do)
help in the documentation aspect of the project. And we will have a wiki
"Real Soon Now(TM)" so this step will be even easier.
But we really have no time to cure the personality problems of self
acclaimed project leaders who think they speak for the whole community.
There have been valuable contributions so far, and there is a lot more
to come. Especially the work of Til and Andreas J. will prove to be
extremely important. But - unexpected as it may be for you - these
contributions came from people who are more concerned with writing
software than hanging around and behaving like a little child.
Regards,
jtl
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