I just use sterile water. Work fine for me. Nicki
From: Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2023 2:07 PM To: Eric Olson; SHIRLEY BELL; Don Price; Jeffrey Gaede Cc: quad-list Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] indwelling urinary catheter problems I have a supra-pubic also......like some of you I have persistant bacteria that I live with also, when I flush we just use sterile water, I have read that some use saline or a mix of water and 0.25 acetic acid, I have not tried the colloidal silver as a flush either....what type flush do most of you use if not doing the silver method??? Thanks Dan H>*** 26 years post. On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 12:03:13 AM CDT, Jeffrey Gaede <jsga...@yahoo.com> wrote: I feel for you, Shirley. I'm right there with you, Don. I really don't have an issue with incontinence but I've had my share of UTIs (indwelling catheter). I'm 44 years post (C3-4). I've also been told that I have a "resistant bug" that's not an issue for the most part. I'm told it's just there. The condition has an actual name but I can't recall it at the moment. I love the list of UTI-solution ideas, Don. Thanks for providing them. Never heard of the colloidal silver flush. I'll have to do some research and speak with my doctor about that one. Good luck, Shirley. Good luck, All. Jeff On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 01:15:06 PM PDT, Don Price <donpric...@yahoo.com> wrote: Shirley, I hope you get everything figured out and working properly again. UTIs and incontinence are such a life-suck. They're just about the hardest part of life with SCI. I'm 41 years post-injury (C5-6, complete) and i've had my share of UTIs. I've developed a resistant bladder bug that is probably with me all the time. As long as i drink enough fluids I'm not symptomatic of infection, even though if i did a urinalysis i'm sure it would come back positive. I try not to use antibiotics except as a last resort. I know a bunch of quads and just about every one has some favorite method of treating a UTI without antibiotics. Things I've heard include: cranberry pills, d-mannose, large doses vitamin C, probiotics, lime oil, oil of oregano and bladder flushes with various solutions. I'm not a doctor, so obviously be careful trying any of these. The thing that has worked best for me (I have a suprapubic catheter) is irrigating with a solution of colloidal silver. Silver is a natural antiseptic/antifungal, so when i feel i'm getting a UTI symptom (usually cloudy/smelly urine) I use a syringe to push the colloidal silver water up my catheter into my bladder, then clamp off the catheter for at least 20 minutes. i do this twice a day (once morning, once bedtime) for about 3 days at it makes a huge difference. I wouldn't consider it a miracle cure, but it seems to take out enough bad bacteria that my symptoms clear up for a while with no side effects or possibility of resistance I will be the first to admit that my results are purely anecdotal, and i was highly skeptical of this silver stuff when another quad friend of mine told me about it. I gave it a try because i was running out of other options, and it ended up working for me. I don't have any studies to share--definitely do your own research. You can purchase colloidal silver online. Half gallon of it for about $40. I use enough each flush to fill my bladder but not cause A.D. Everyone's bladder is different, so i recommend discussing with your urologist first. If anyone has further questions you can email me directly. donpric...@yahoo.com Best wishes, Don. On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 11:29:30 AM MST, SHIRLEY BELL <sbell...@cox.net> wrote: Thanks everyone, My Dr does want a sample when I change the catheter again. I just did and this time things are ok, right now. don't want to try to change again as that's when it goes south. On 10/25/2023 1:30 PM EDT Eric Olson <whee...@wi.rr.com> wrote: just happened to run across this article. Looks like you have a few of the signs of an infection https://www.hollister.com/en/continencecare/continencelearningcenter/livingwithaneurologicalcondition/7signsthatyoumayhaveaurinarytractinfection On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 10:25 AM SHIRLEY BELL <sbell...@cox.net> wrote: Hi all, anyone have an indwelling Catheter for 40 or so years and had severe issues on and off with spasms and incontinence resulting in changing even new catheters until one works? It's hard to explain but not good. I take the max on spasm pills. Can't get in to see Dr for a few weeks, wanted to do research before. Would a supra pubic help with this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Shirley